The Furious Angels
FA Discussion => General => Topic started by: Anonymous on September 21, 2004, 07:44:29 pm
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I am leaving FA. It is not you guys, it is MXO.
Unfortunately, MXO is not even close to my expectations. After trying the Beta, I have become disenchanted with it.
That game has dug itself into a deep hole,and there is no way of getting out.
It's not the bugs or technicalities. The core gameplay is simply not fun. I am bored with that game already, after only a few days of play. Although the Devs have tried to be different with it, the game is different in a bad way. It's just worse than other MMORPGs. I know that there is no way I would buy this game when it is released.
It's been a great time with you guys, and I've grown to like all of you. I wish you all the best in both MXO and the real world.
I've enjoyed very much this journey into the Matrix Universe. But, perhaps the ones who are not in Beta have it the best. They still have their expectations and hopes. Mine are shattered.
Now that I am withdrawing from the MXO community, I have an important message for you. It's encrypted. By the time you decrypt it, I will be gone. It is best that way. Thank you all. I only wish I could see how this will play out. No matter. The others will tell me.
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You go byebye.
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It's always sad to see someone else go. I never really talked to you personally or knew very much about you, but I'm sure you will be widely missed. Good luck my friend
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For the lazy, the translation:
I have a confession to make.
For the past few months, I have been a spy in FA.
I have relayed much insider information, first to Infect of Elite Executioners, and then to Admiral Tom of the Immortallis, who, for some reason, hates FA.
I have leaked the details to the admission challenge.
I have sent much of the forums' important content,
such as "Clan Relations", Ship crew lists, etc.
Hiddenshadow was also a spy for Elite Executioners. I thought that by exposing him, I would gain Tbone's trust. He never knew that I was a spy, so while I was able to betray him, I was safe.
Why did I do it? Power. Admiral Tom was able to offer me power, control, authority.
In FA I was only a foot soldier, a pawn, a cog. No more!
I am free from your clandestine control, Tbone!
TBone, so high and mighty, Commander of the biggest clan, you say! We are the most powerful, you say!
Well, know this:
FA is nothing. You are surrounded by espionage and incompetence.
Admiral Tom has at least three other spies in FA, whom I do not know. One is a captain.
You have perhaps 20-30 members you can trust.
The rest are either inactive, lazy, or traitorous.
You were able to protect FA from the outside, but it collapsing from within.
I will now cease to exist.
Goodbye.
jack_out_forever.
Sorry to see him go? Come again?
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Whoa... "The Watcher" was a Spy.
::shakes his head::
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lol go figure ..heh
so much for the "you will be widley missed" part, eh wolf?
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yup.....
the.watcher was a spy, eh? Well, I wonder who else in the clan would be a spy.....
"The others", eh? Hmmmmmm.......
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Ya, I do lie about my feeling sometimes.... anyway, I told you Eclipse, when people were suspecting a spy in FA, wtf did The Watcher care who was the spy.....
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hmm.
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yeah, ok, so I'm gonna have to rescind that a little bit. Not quite so sorry to see him go. On the other hand, if those other clans know all that information about us, then they know how much power we have. What format was that message encrypted in?
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Wolf said:
if those other clans know all that information about us, then they know how much power we have.
That's really the problem though. I guess it's not that bad because they know that we are powerful but they know HOW powerful so we don't necesarrily have that element of suprise.
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Feh.
Who is watching the Watchers?
That's the interesting question.
Sommmmmmmmmmmmmmmething tells me somebody is.
Just a hunch.
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Yeah .. because we have alot to be spied on for .. you know .. like .. what we ate for breakfast - or how drunk Cosmic was that one day.
I hold no resentment mate, good luck in whatever other game you pursue.
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Sorry, just have to say this...
how drunk Cosmic was that one day.
Cosmic is always drunk....
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Tru dat.
(PS: How in the HELL did you decode that message?)
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It's ASCII hex. It's not in code. It's in english. :P
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Drinking is something that you wish you were as good at. I own at it, and one day, when YOU KIDS are old enough, you will enjoy it as much as I do.
Get me a drink, bitches!
Cosmic
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It's ASCII hex. It's not in code. It's in english. :P
Is there a program to decode it, because I wouldn't want to spend my life decoding that.
(PS; How come we never really noticed his name? The watcher...)
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http://nickciske.com/tools/hex.php a simple web based conversion app.
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Wow, I just used that to decode the entire message, and that's a little uncool. But I still agree with Acidic, so what if they know special things about us? Oh my god, he knows that I like my eggs sunny-side up. So some other people know what our names are, whoopee. I don't know if we've gone through the trouble of espionage against other factions, at least to this extent. I'd like to believe that we are above that kind of thing, that we accept our position and are ready to just move with whatever flow we find, or if we are lucky enough, create a flow of our own. It's not like this information will set us back any great deal, we don't even know if there is any proof that there are other spies or if the.watcher merely said that to keep us worried and neurotic. So if there are any spies out there, for breakfast I enjoy a good Eggs Benedict with a little glass of orange juice, and perhaps a few slices of bacon. My name is Wolf and I'm happy to make your acquaintance.
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Yeah. I didn't even notice I didn't c&p the whole thing. Teach me to proofread what I write.
Fixed now.
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I am amazed that people are taking it to this level already, the game hasn't even started yet. Espionage? WTF? I am excited about mx0 and all, and I can't wait to play... but I don't understand why all the posturing. Will it even make a difference in January?
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Well, I guess we know who made that website now. If you're just joining us, I'm refering to the website that had information on it that was only made available to our captains. This rules out that we were hacked. Any other guilty parties want to step forward? It'd be a lot easier if you went ahead and admitted it...
Take note that nothing was gained from these spies. The most damage they can do is try to rot the faction from within. The information they relay isn't necessarily sensitive and doesn't help the other clans out much. Eventually they will have to choose (the spies). The game doesn't let you be in more than one faction. It does hurt me that there are people who don't even know me who are "out to get me", and that many of you reading this right now are stabbing me in the back, but I'm not scared of anything. I cut my losses and move on. If people wanna let other faction know where to go if they wanna get their asses kicked, by all means tell them. It will give us something to do, or it will when they implement the PvP system.
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He always seemed like a nice guy, I wonder if it really was all a facade. Ah well, I guess we'll never know. It's a shame it had to turn out like this, but what puzzles me is why he revealed himself and left now, when he cold have remained in our ranks into the games release. I guess "the others" will be doing his job.. :(
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his name always did have me paranoid
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I agree Boombye, it always had me stumped. Why 'the watcher'? Now we know. I guess that there will be some sort of interegation of the captains now, just to be safe.
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well i have to say that i never liked the.watcher, he always seemed to pick fights in forums i posted and would log out of team speak when ever i came on, i also suspected that he was not in this for the long haul, but to keep harmony in the group i said nothing. i hope that if he does appear in another fraction we can dispose of him to justify the way he treated us. for i promice in the name of eon and frieflick justice will be served.
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Shit man...
Damn him. I actually liked that bastard..
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I remember chatting with him a while ago. He told me that "HiddenShadow" was a spy and that we should watch him. I let Tbone know about that.
I didn't expect that the guy that told me that would be a spy too.
Another shocker.
We should probably start taking fingerprints and DNA samples and also do background checks with the FBI.
I'm sure there are still spies left in this faction. That is the mindset we should have. If there aren't any left, great. If there are, we're ready for them. Better safe than sorry. We need to expect the unexpected.
Keep an eye open for any new members named something like "the observer", "moleman" or "camouflageGod"
;-)
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Or "Spy".
I think we can trust most of the pre May 4...
Oh, and just to let you know, my name means "City" in rumenian, so I'm safe ;).
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Most interesting indeed, makes you think.
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/me has shifty eyes.
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Would anyone like to ring the bell to inaugurate our brand new Witch Hunt. Here's your chance to claim that anyone you never liked very much is a spy and a traitor. How many of these kinds of opportunities are you going to have? Quick everyone, jump on the finger-pointing bandwagon and join in on the fun. Orasu's avatar has glowing eyes in it, that must mean they're really just camera lenses reflecting the light and he's really a spy sent to document our daily lives! Oh no! Quick everyone, grab your pitchforks and your torches, we've got some lynchin to do.
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Since Wolf is obviously trying to be sarcastic and imply that anyone who participates in a witch hunt is acting the fool... He must be a spy. Only a spy would want us not to conduct a witch hunt! If he weighs more than a duck, BURN HIM!
</sarcasm>
:D
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excuse me for a second...
ROFL!!
I'm sorry, if we are to believe his words, he thinks MxO sucks? Ok beta maybe has a bit to go, but if this is the case, he's just wasted a few months of spying on information which is useless, and wasted time.. how can I put this... sucking captains cock from another clan lol
Blimey! Although it may have provided a little entertainment to be a lap dog, and actually having something that seemed "worthwhile?" to do whilst waiting on game release I can't believe someone is so sad to really do this.
The only thing we have ever been concerned about is others posting the workthrough for the puzzle. After all it is really a meaningless puzzle, to a clan website where all we can really talk about right now is what we watched on TV last Tuesday night.
Plans you say? I aint a Captain, so I aint privvy to certain info, but I can't imagine its that important, because it doesn't have much to do with the game. Maybe Tbone is in beta or something, and knows a bit more on how things will work, but IMO most things will be altered by the time the game hits the shops (ie current orders might not make sense anymore). If you follow.....
Crew rosters? Jezus, most of us have a follow the angel reference in every thread we post online, it wouldn't take long to find out who's in the angels. rankings? again, I think most know the important people...
in other words, what the hell is there to spy on just now? if the watcher were still here, I would say get a life, but being in a clan where the game aint released yet, I'll shut my mouth for now.
Don't get me wrong tho'. I love the community here, I am still looking forward to the game, just like the rest of us! :D sorry for wee rant there
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oh ps, I would maybe run a IP check on all users just in case he had a second account if this is true (although I really doubt this), if you logged em.
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other than the rotting in hell, and burning for all eturnity speach, i wasn't suprised hearing that he was a spy, our recruitment methods have gotten a little slackish as of late, heck we dont even reiforce the 1 week trial anymore. but thats just my opinion whatever, later
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I'll have you know I weigh the same as many ducks. So does that make me five times the spy? Maybe... maybe....
As far as what I watched last Tuesday for any interested parties I did happen to catch the latest episodes of King of the Pride and Scrubs. Also while flipping through the channels I happened to come across The Fabulous Life on VH1 holding a "bling-off" between the Senator John Kerry and President Bush. Apparently John Kerry is an avid bicyclist, wind surfer and snowboarder while Bush plays golf.....
And so Gillette, having unmasked my dark secret, you must unfortunately be killed. I hope no one was to attached, and it is really quite sad that things had to come to this, but I really do feel it is all for the better, so if you could all just rewind the clock to before that post and forget everything that Gillette said we can all still be buddies and I won't have to go on a rampage. Well Gillette, sorry old pal </kill> </sarcasm>
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WTF?
If he was a spy, he was a downright shitty one. Having admitted it and left the facation before _the actual release of the game_. What good will any of his information have?
Anyway, people are taking this far too seriously anyway. The bottom line is that MxO is a game. Anyone willing to put aside their own fun, and "befriend" people they don't even like in order to call themselves a "spy", is pathetic. Play the game, play it with your friends, maybe try to one up your competition fairly and move on.
IMO, the watcher is a sad sad little man.
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We must not approach this with panic and paranoia, but we must approach this with caution. A spy's motto is To be wise as a serpent, but harmless as a dove. The_Watcher did confide in me that Hiddenshadow was a spy, but I said nothing to anyone else then Eligoh. However seeing as How CoreDump told Tbone, I'm sure something has been done. Or if it hasnt, it should be remedied very quickly.
Did I ever suspect that Watcher was a spy? No, unfortunately. However, to just point out, seeing as how his alias has not changed to Guest, it is a possibility that he may come back to see Tbone's reply or just to browse the forums for as long as possible. Now do I think Watcher is going to sink to this level, very low possiblity. I stil lregard him with an air of honor, whether you want to admit it or not, he fooled us. He fooled everyone of us. Whether or not we liked him, disliked him, he fooled us. And he's got to have some sort of skill to do that.
As to the fact of one of the Captains being a spy I say....disappointed but not unexpected. I was never completely into the idea of us being hacked, and I suggest all of the captain's responses to Tbone's Things You Might Want To Know thread be re-read and analyzed. Although any information may not be gained from this activity, you never know.
I also want you guys to realize something. According to The_Watcher's message he did not come into the faction as a spy, or maybe he did under another name, and was rejected for any postion of authority, and came back again as The_Watcher. Although, the name might imply that he did come here under those pretenses, it's just as likely that he did not. But not to refute my own claims, maybe he was a spy, and was waiting for a staff position to truly become a Furious Angels. He was angry that Tbone did not give him a position, which would imply that He did either apply for captainship and was rejected and/oror felt that by telling Tbone about HS that he would be given a positon. It would also go to show that TW is in this nothing but for power, for information.
Which leads to another point. Tbone, all of you, beware, for no one HAS to leave the faction once the game comes out. They could be spying purely for information, or game information that is. Any spy worth his/her balls would know that s/he could remain in this clan as a captain while they were woprking for another clan. It's easy. They work for antoher clan as a spy, but remain here in a trusted postion. There reward for spying on us would be information. The captain or whatever of that clan would be paying our spy to actually stay here and lead us. S/He would be a captain and effectively leading us into battle, but would be a double agent. They could also be getting their reward in the natural life, how hard is it to use PayPal to transfer real-world dollars, real-world funds? Not hard at all.They would not need to leave. This opens up an exciting, but dangerous door. As I said before, beware.
Gained with this knowledge know this: no spy needs to be a spy because of allegiance to one faction or another, they need be a spy only for information, for power, for themselves, for greed.
P.S. I suggest that there be no captains, but that in the game leadership is decided, I know that this was being thought of, but I'm not sure if it's fully thorough yet. I only sugest this as to shuffle things, and if the current captains are any real leaders at all they'll show their worth when the game's out...
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My only concern is that people are getting into beta through proxy, the FA being that proxy. There could be some legal remifications for this.
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Also, Zink I do believe you are correct. We cannot slack...or become lazy....idle hands make for the veil's playground.
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John Cleese: "She turned me into a newt!"
*silence*
"I got better..."
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Sorry, I do not have much to say on this other than, where are peoples respect and dignity these days?
I mean seriously, if you can't have respect who are you?
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Some people are just jealous. They want to see one of the most powerful and influential clans crumble from within. Normally, the only reason they do this is because they're little immature children who want to be in FA, but can't because they were either denied, or because they just can't solve the puzzle. Having someone else solve the puzzle for them and giving away "vital information" makes them feel special and cool. I mean, seriously, if we were to open our forums for all to view, people would probably just say: "What the hell is wrong with these people?!" There's nothing really important to see here. We're all here to have fun, and if we weren't having fun, then I doubt we'd be here.
Also, I'd like to send my own message to any possible traitors. You may want to cut ties with who ever you're dealing with before game time comes. I personally have done spying in other games. I'll admit to it. But, it's only fun for awhile until you finally figure out, "what's the point?" The answer is, there isn't one. You have nothing to gain from anyone, but much to lose. Just think about that. Spying for a freaking video game, of all things, has no purpose at all unless you have no life whatsoever.
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Can we get his beta account banned...
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Since he revealed he was in beta, I believe that he has quit beta completely.
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he did tell us he was in beta... hence NDA violation.
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Well let them look all they want.... Folks I say now is the time to work out the kinks in game and out of game. When the release hits I say let us all be ready to go in game and deal out some immediate damage to those who have been screwin' with us.
Broin
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Yeah buddy, just like I was sayin, grab your pitchforks and your torches... it's party time!
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He said he left beta yes, but who said anyone can't lie?
Whats stopping him from flipping on the beta once and awhile to see how things are going? He should not be allowed to do that.
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha *slaps knee* thats just down right funny, vitual infromation, thats a good one, ohh know, they know what headset someone is going to buy, or what Movies we like, we're going to fall apart now. on the bright side, i can use the advent children sephiroth in my new sig now
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Long before this happened, we were in the process of creating a tighter recruitment. Our plan now is to have a new challenge, the application, and a Teamspeak interview before being admitted. Also, I plan on having a Teamspeak interview with every current member of the faction. Get a mic and be ready. I'm not taking any excuses.
What's sad is that people have put in time and money so that this faction could have these resources. It's not fair for spies to come in and take advantage of this. I don't think the.watcher was lying when he said we had at least three more spies in the faction, one being someone who was a Captain.
the.watcher and Hiddenshadow's IPs have been banned. I will delete their accounts shortly.
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hmm i have been saying for a long time i was paranoid of the incoming recruits and to tell you the truth i still am... sorry if you're new and i don't know you, but i still don't trust you...i'll talk and be friends... but i don't trust you... i always said to either make a new challenge or better yet close recruitment but w/e.... i never trusted any of them and for this damn reason. i don't mean to be harsh but that's simply how people are.i never liked the watcher... and never trusted him... i think i may have said it to a few... and many have heard me bitch and preach about it on TS and Vent. believe me if you wish, but i have never trusted new recruits and never will =\, i'll still be friends, and still talk to you... but i won't trust you.. sorry... there is only a select few who have my trust... and you know who you are...this is that reason
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Long before this happened, we were in the process of creating a tighter recruitment. Our plan now is to have a new challenge, the application, and a Teamspeak interview before being admitted. Also, I plan on having a Teamspeak interview with every current member of the faction. Get a mic and be ready. I'm not taking any excuses.
What's sad is that people have put in time and money so that this faction could have these resources. It's not fair for spies to come in and take advantage of this. I don't think the.watcher was lying when he said we had at least three more spies in the faction, one being someone who was a Captain.
the.watcher and Hiddenshadow's IPs have been banned. I will delete their accounts shortly.
I can do that, if you'll bear with me on my accent ;). But that wouldn't really bust any spies would it? If a spy wants to get in, he'll get in if he's smart enough.
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That may well be true orasu, but some people just give of a vibe, be it in voice chat, text or person, and it is those people that we should be wary of. Also Tbone, I have a hell of a lot of work to do at school at the moment, so if you could organise the times of these interviews, it would probably be best for the masses.
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Yeah, I completely agree with that, like setup a few days or something when you'll be doing the interviews and give everyone some time slots, adjusted for time zones of course.
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Yes, Tbone, I agree with Ajax and Wolf. If you're going to do these ineriews, which I actually do support, then i think there needs to be atleast maybe a week in advance notice given, so that things in the real world don't get in the way. I mean this is my junior year, and I was going to have to arrange atleast three days to play MxO with my crew, and of course some on the weekends. Although, if you gave it to me like 2-3 days before hand it'd be extremely hard for me to make the appointment. But if I had a week to like get ready, I'm sure that the appointment could be met, and if not, we'd still have time to reschedule.
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Also, just to point out, Watcher said that he was given power and authority by Admiral Tom, so it would be in the least, somewhat safe to say he's a captain or the such in the Immortalis. If they're not already, they should be added to the KOS.
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Admiral Tom is a geeks name... but I don't there are any plans for free PVP in MxO right now, but I don't doubt there will be frequent clan wars, which we should win I might add... they might have more guns but we are smarter, harder and faster.
On a second note I also support the interviews, just remember that not all us Europeans can be on same time as you... so a week in advance would be a good idea.
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on a side note erebus monty python rocks
and if i remeber this right and i belive this is what the watcher said when he got in that he used "unconvetional methods" and i never trusted him his name bugged me...
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wow bad times, i can take my interview any time T tell me when you get it ready and ill be there for it
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I suppose I could take the interview at any time, as well Tbone.....although I dont see why you would interview people you talk to on teamspeak anyway.....
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yeah, i'm game for an interview. Just let me know when. Keep in mind you know my constrictive scedule.
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I'm all good for the interview.
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i am also in favour of a interveiw system. justlet me when you wantit.if i can't make the allacated time i may be at work football (soccer for you NAs) or banned form the comp.
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Interview system is not bad, just don't understand why older members have to do it.But whatever, its not going to kill me or get me kicked...
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I think that adding an interview to the recruitment process is a good idea. Any time you want to talk let me know.
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The fact that we have a supposed 'captain' spy means that it will be an old member pretty much, and so he must interview all members. Some people saw us whenwe were but a fledgling faction and saw that we would be great:D, and so they hopped on the bandwagon.
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Well..we had a few not so very old timer captains..
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I'm all for the interview thing, but I really do think that this thread should stop. I mean, we've reached five pages, and it's kinda heading in the direction of more an interview thread.
I'm just gonna go make a new topic.
*fidlles with the forums*
Ok, done! Check it out: Interviews: What do you think?