The Furious Angels
FA Discussion => General => Topic started by: Tbone on October 07, 2009, 05:03:58 pm
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APB
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HOME:
Welcome to the FA website, home of San Paro's finest!
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Ok, enough of that shit. If you're here, you probably already know who we are. We've either busted your head in while you were jacking that TV or you watched us bust that guy's head in while he was jacking your TV. You may love us. You may hate us. Either way, we don't care.
For those of you living in a cave, we're known as the Furious Angels. Why? Figure that out on your own. What do we do? Well, we do what we have to. We're above the law. Yeah, that's right. We're not afraid to say it. We bypass the paperwork. There's too much crime and not enough paper. We're not the police...we're above the police. If you're hear to get your kitty out of a tree, you've come to the wrong place.
Commander Tbone
MISSION
The Furious Angels is a sanctioned department created to counteract the growing crime rate in San Paro. We are not the police. We are not the government. Think of us as outside hire. We use any force necessary to bring to justice the criminals of San Paro. Simple, right?
HISTORY
As crime increased in San Paro, it was decided that the police department no longer had enough resources to control the city. It was around this time that a man known only as Tbone approached the city police with a solution. Tbone proposed an elite taskforce of men and women with no identity and no ties to the government to combat the chaos of crime with a unique, merciless force. Tbone and his Furious Angels have no serial numbers, no known names other than their aliases. They are ghosts...though most consider them angels. Angels protecting their city.
ACADEMY
Academy? What do you think this is? The police? Or some cheesy movie? Either you have what it takes or you don't. If you think you have what it takes, register with us and if we aren't busy saving your ass, maybe we'll take a look at what you've got to offer.
REPORT A CRIME
Crime in progress? Report it!
Name
Email
Location of Crime
Description of Crime
Are you commiting the crime?
Are you a victim of the crime?
Are you observing the crime?
If so, why haven't you stopped it?
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Model for APB public site: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/home/home.shtml
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I think our main logo should be a badge of some sort... Too cliche?
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I was thinking of replacing the NYPD badge with one with the FA symbol on it.
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I love it. No nonsense, no fancy words... just straight business.
Also, badges may be cliche but they're also pretty darn cool. Especially with the FA symbol on it. But that may also be because the FA symbol can make ANYTHING look totally bad-ass. Test it sometime.
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i like it, a lot.
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I'll be honest, I think the intro paragraphs sound a little demeaning and posturing. I understand that this is a no-nonsense approach in accordance with the game's setting, but talking down to your potential recruits seems counter-productive. It might be better to explain more of who we are and what people can expect from us. Rather than saying that we're badasses and anyone who thinks otherwise can piss off.
Can I suggest a slight change?
"You may love us. You may hate us. Either way, we're here to get the job done."
Something along those lines. I think puffing out our chests while claiming to not give a shit about the opinions of others will make them default to having no opinion at all. Sure we don't give a shit whether people love us or hate us, but bragging about that fact like its a merit badge seems kind of high school-ish.
If I'm the only one who feels this way I'll shut up. :)
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I see where you're coming from Manic. My fear was I didn't want to attract the shit talkers. Thing is, anything else makes us look like the goody-two shoe police force. "We're here to save the day!" I wanted to try something different that fit the personality of the game. I like the juxtaposition of what you would expect from a "police force" website and the attitude that we're giving.
Is it arrogant? Yeah. My idea is that once they register to the site and go to our main site, we can give them more of a direct approach of our goals and code of conduct and all that stuff. This is mainly to grab your attention and get you to register and explore the site further.
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Site is coming along. Pretty busy this weekend, but I have some more free time next week. Hopefully I can get this functional along with setting up a "registered" section of the site that is different than our "member" section and open up registration to all.
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The concept art of the website has finally been nailed down. The skeleton of the website was laid out by Tbone, and I just did a bit of work to clean it up a bit (font in the middle very subject to change).
Oh, and I found a kick-ass banner.
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2193/apbbanner.jpg
The website should be up in the next couple of days, hopefully. If anyone can round my corners a bit better at the bottom, that would be really, really swell.
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I'm taking a trip away from computer life this weekend, but when I get back I intend to try my hand at an insignia for APB like I did for SWTOR.
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Ok, I made quite a few changes to the site in order to make it a bit more edgy.
http://apb.thefuriousangels.com
I think it is better, but let me know if anything is too distracting. We should be set to start recruiting in APB soon!
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Thanks everyone for your feedback. I think I fixed/addressed most of your concerns. None of you left a checklist on this thread like I asked, though, so I can't be certain. Two issues we probably should take care of now (caused by my font script):
-Pages are loading a little slow (this we can live with)
-In IE, an error message saying "A script is causing IE to run slowly" appears when you load the page.
We need to get rid of this error message. It is caused by the font javascript program. I only get the error message in IE.
Please let me know of any other changes that need to be made as well.
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Well, the script takes too long for body text and isn't working in IE and iPhone. I guess I'll have to make gif files out of them...
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Ok, fixed the text. Should be looking good on every browser now. The only issue left to get rid of:
-A pixel's width of white appears on the right side of the border. Reducing table size by one pixel fixes this for every browser but Firefox. In Firefox, it reads the table is too small for the design, and thus, very rudely, forces the last border picture down to a new row, throwing off the whole site. So far I can't find a fix that pleases every browser.
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Not a big fan of the background, especially sinse the main part blocks some of it... Putting it to white only would hide the white line.
my 2 cents.
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It looks a little too plain without the background. The white line I can forgive unless someone has a solution that doesn't involve it getting all borked up in Firefox.
So here's what we have left to begin APB Recruitment
-APB Website acceptable? Hopefully by now it is close...
-thefuriousangels.com - Do we require registration to surf around, or have our basic history, etc. available to anyone who comes to the site?
-What should the post say that we put on all of the forums?
-We need a unified sig (at least similar template) for when we begin. Still no one has created a decent looking APB FA Badge...or even tried one.
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...Still no one has created a decent looking APB FA Badge...or even tried one.
I'll toss around some ideas in PS and if i come up with something I like, I'll toss it out there.
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I've made this banner to potentially put on our post...did it quickly:
(http://apb.thefuriousangels.com/images/apbpost.gif)
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(http://apb.thefuriousangels.com/images/apbpost.gif) (http://apb.thefuriousangels.com)
Listen Up...
If you've got nothing left to lose and your sick of this city looking like the bottom of your toilet, stop moping around your house and get up and do something about it! We're not looking for just anybody - if you're an anybody, go join your neighborhood watch. Or better yet, go join the police force. You'll see how effective those guys really are...
But if you're willing to give up everything for the cause, you may be worth something to us. You've caught our eye due to your background and combat skills, but we need to make sure you're not rusty. If you're interested, come talk to me.
What? You've got questions? Do I look like I'm giving handouts here? Do a little research! Fine... you may want to start here (http://apb.thefuriousangels.com).
Commander Tbone
The Furious Angels
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New design idea I had after working on the sigs:
(http://followtheangel.org/tbone/newdesign.jpg)
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YES, YES, YES!!!
Except black font for "Home, Mission, etc.".
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Yeah, I chose that red to go with the dripping blood theme. Maybe I could do a hover-over black?
And I'm not sure about the motto "No identity...no limits...you answer to angels." The tag line needs tweaking...
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New site design has been implemented. You'll find it is not as harsh as the previous idea, but more secretive. I still need input please. It takes 30 seconds to post your thoughts.
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It's almost a complete 180 from the other one. I liked the other one except for the silly background. This new look is easier to read and might overall express our persona in this game better.
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I like it a lot better than the old version. The old version felt a little cold and corporate.
I hope you don't mind, but this new design inspired me. You don't have to use this.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2249439/test.jpg)
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I like the new look you both propose. However, regarding the paper - rather than it being something torn from a notebook, could it be revamped to look like an eyes-only confidential professional document?
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Honestly between Manic's and Tbone's I prefer the latter, it just seems a little more sleek.
If I may make a suggestion; I'd love for there to be an "Angel Bios" tab, or something to that effect. FA members who are part of a squad and active in the game can submit their character's backstory on the forums, and it can be posted on the site. I only say this because I look for excuses to roleplay, and I know I'd love the opportunity to publish my character's personal history where it matters. Doing so may seem a bit out of sorts, after all a professional anti-crime organization wouldn't display a detailed background on all of it's members for the world to see, but we could style it up and make it look like each story has been censored, with important specifics blacked out CIA style. I'll stop myself before I start rambling, but you get what direction I'm going in here, right?
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I have to say I like Manic's take on Tbone's design.....with a few further modifications. I think the overall image needs a pair of hand-cuffs and a badge to be complete. I also like the idea of the classified document format......but all of that is my opinion.
I also like the idea of the tab for Angel Bios. As most of you are aware, I find it very fun and (for me) fulfilling to create an elaborate character backstory. I've done two or three stories for my MxO character and I have done one for my Darkfall character. Previous to that, I wrote a character bio for my SWG character and plan on writing backstories for both my APB and SWTOR characters. The best part is sharing these bios with others. Cutting to the chase, I support the suggestion.
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I actually wanted to do a characters story area as well. The reason I didn't was that I wanted to include pictures, and APB is still under the NDA, and almost all of you still aren't in the game yet. Not to mention once we are in game, we'll need to figure out uniforms, cars, etc. I feel like that is something we should add at a later date.
I like Manic's paper and top secret stuff better, but I miss my gun and blood splatters against the white. I'm not really sure which dogtag I like better.
We're getting away from the badge and handcuffs a bit since we are going a bit more secretive, rogue than police.
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New graphic for my forum posts:
(http://apb.thefuriousangels.com/images/apbpost.gif)
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I actually wanted to do a characters story area as well. The reason I didn't was that I wanted to include pictures, and APB is still under the NDA, and almost all of you still aren't in the game yet. Not to mention once we are in game, we'll need to figure out uniforms, cars, etc. I feel like that is something we should add at a later date.
I like Manic's paper and top secret stuff better, but I miss my gun and blood splatters against the white. I'm not really sure which dogtag I like better.
We're getting away from the badge and handcuffs a bit since we are going a bit more secretive, rogue than police.
Well that certainly makes sense, but we could implement it now and simply have each person leave it at "and thats when/how I joined the FA) or something along those lines, adding to or editing it later. I always like doing a backstory as a "first chapter" sort of deal, and as I play I translate the major gameplay milestones I reach into new "chapters", thus adding to the story.
I can see why you'd want to wait to add it though, so I can definitely live with that.
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I experimented with different backgrounds: concrete, asphalt, wood, and flat white. I felt it looked odd to have the other elements (paper, gun, dogtags) floating around in white space. Especially to have them casting shadows on "nothing". So I went with wood, but I can change it if need be. Asphalt might be a better fit, actually.
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Take 2:
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2249439/test2.jpg)
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Better Manic. I still don't like the gun. And now the yellow streaks are confusing me. Dogtags and blood look better, though.
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Do you mean you don't like the style of the gun I used, or you don't like the gun at all?
The more I look at the gun, the less I like it. I think it adds too much "bulk" to the image, when a "less is more" approach might look better.
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I think it looks great aside from the aforementioned yellow streaks. It looks like it's all on the ground... just kinda looks wierd.
I personally like the wooden table look to be honest but i might be alone on that one.
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I like having a gun, but I feel that gun is too animated. For some reason it makes me feel like I'm about to play the board game Clue. I really liked the sleek, silver gun that I found, though I'm not sure if it would match the rest of your style. Basically I want the gun more sleek and metallic and not as blue and animated, I guess.
I like how the blood looks better on the asphalt than the wood, though the wood does make more sense logistically.
Also, we need a join button somewhere. I just put mine at the bottom but you could get creative if you wanted.
I'll miss my blood on white, but I suppose that can still be used for our sigs.
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may use this gun as it looks more realistic
(http://remtek.com/arms/hk/civ/usp/match/usp45m.gif)
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Ideas......
http://guns4u.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/150102_large.jpg
http://www.daniusoft.com/images/wallpaper/psp/Silver01.jpg
http://www.bbguns.nitrotek.co.uk/images/BHFCHG203MAIN.jpg
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/magnum_research/mag_de_6_brushedchrome.jpg
http://sotisbg.com/shop/images/Falcon%20matte%20chrome.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/0/00/BellyNorincoType56-1.jpg/400px-BellyNorincoType56-1.jpg
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I'm banging my head against the wall trying to find a high-res photo of a silver Desert Eagle. Here's what I've come up with so far.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2249439/test3.jpg)
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That Silver DE definitely fits much better then the previous gun.
I like it.!
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I'd much rather have a DE or 1911 on anything we put out. That HK looks too much like a P22, which while it is a great little gun (I have one of them in my drawer right now) it certainly doesn't look too intimidating, IMO.
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its a USP
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I know, hence the "That HK looks too much like a P22", but I hate the look of any pistol with a weight compensator...
Just doesn't look mean enough to me.
Maybe it's just me.
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I really, REALLY like the look of the 1911. It actually makes me want to go get a permit.
Here it is with the 1911.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2249439/test4.jpg)
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agreed! I was actually pricing them out a few days ago.
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Changed the dogtag font to Courier, rather than Bank Gothic.
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Can you send me those files, Manic? Also, I need to find a way to make the text work for each page, including the Report one that has a form to fill out. I'm not sure how to do that when it is slightly tilted the way you have it (currently I use iFrames, and I don't know if you can tilt an iFrame).
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Can you send me those files, Manic? Also, I need to find a way to make the text work for each page, including the Report one that has a form to fill out. I'm not sure how to do that when it is slightly tilted the way you have it (currently I use iFrames, and I don't know if you can tilt an iFrame).
How about I make an image for each page in photoshop? That way you don't have to worry about orienting the text in an iFrame (which I don't think is possible anyway). Then you'll just have to put the links in their proper places. I'll post some examples in a minute here.
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Ok. So then each link would have to reload the page with the center image changed, I guess? And I still don't know how the form would work. If it is all image, then how can the user input text into it and submit it?
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Need to run an errand with the girlfriend. Will finish when I get back.
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Ok, no prob
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All the pages. Do you think the "Report" form could just be put on a copy of the page, minus the note paper and envelope?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2249439/splash_page.zip
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Btw, are they still sending out Beta invites to the applicants? Or do we just need to wait for another wave?
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I feel like I read somewhere that their North American inclusion of the Beta test wouldn't begin until next year sometime. Due to the location of their servers, there's significantly more lag for people on this side of the pond.
Also, a few weeks ago they mentioned reaching their server capacity for the time being, until they upgrade the servers. Since then, there's been no word of more invites/waves going out.
I'm guessing January would be the earliest for random NA invites to start going out.
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What font did you use for the dogtags? Apparently I don't have it...
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My dog tag contribution:
(http://home.comcast.net/~phienyx/FADogTag.jpg) (http://home.comcast.net/~phienyx/FADogTag2.jpg)
For the info tag, the rank/function can be eliminated if it does not apply. But can be used for officers ranks or to list other regular member ranking such as what is listed as forum labels. As we are a "secret" organization, I didn't want too much info listed here. I figured call sign, rank and then a id number.
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Ok, site 3.0 is up.
Known issues:
-Font on dogtags for "Report" page is slightly different than the rest (I need the original font).
-Font for the "Report" form is different than the rest (American Typewriter is a Mac font, and is not a cross-platform font that can be used in basic HTML).
-Page shifts slightly to the left on Report page (reason unknown)
-"Error" and "ThankYou" page for form is a placeholder. I want to have an envelope like you're mailing in the crime report, but the "Submit" portion of the form is loading in the iFrame instead of loading the entire page.
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courier new or just courier are good for the dogtags.
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Courier New was as close as I could get to Manic's font.
Nice Phienyx! Do you have the psd to those so that name and rank can be edited?
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Yes. Let me know where you want them and I'll send em.
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I want to have an envelope like you're mailing in the crime report, but the "Submit" portion of the form is loading in the iFrame instead of loading the entire page.
I was thinking the same thing. I'll try to find a good envelope image to use.
Phienyx's dog tags are awesome! Simple but very unique.
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You can send them to tbone@followtheangel.org if ya want.
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Sent. I made a minor modification to the FA logo tag. I added www.followtheangel.org at the bottom which is what I intended for the example I posted here.
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Tbone: I made two versions of the "Report" page. One with the note paper like on the other pages, and the other with just a large envelope. Is that what you had in mind?
http://inspireatwill.com/manicv/report_page.zip
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I'm putting the fansite kit to use. There are enough assets in here that I felt inspired to redesign the page. I'll be working on this throughout the weekend, so if you visit that link and something looks horribly wrong, I am aware of it. :) As always, feedback is appreciated:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2249439/apb/index.html
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This reminds me, I never got a psd from you, Phienyx. Only jpegs of the dog tags!
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Really?! $#|+. That is bad. I was hoping to get a copy of them from you. My HD crashed and I lost all of my artwork.....that's about 6 years worth of work. I'll look around. I may have a copy somewhere. Otherwise, I'll just have to jump back on and redo them from scratch. Not a biggie.
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Yeah, all I can find are two jpegs. FADogtag and FADogtag2.
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if you could send those back to me at phienyx@comcast.net, I'll use them as models to redo them.
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Test site has been updated with all pages and links. Let me know what you think.
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Mmmmm.....I kinda like what you had going with the first design better. I just kinda think the dark background is a little gloomy for FA.