The Furious Angels

FA Discussion => General => Topic started by: Tbone on July 12, 2011, 03:28:04 pm

Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Tbone on July 12, 2011, 03:28:04 pm
Quote from: "Kaplin"
Tbone,
I've had a little idea to push the FollowTheSignal challenge beyond the TOR website, while hopefully still keeping it within the boundaries of the gaming community.

Wind, ExternalError and myself will be attending the Eurogamer Expo at the end of September this year, in London.  The event isn't anywhere near as large as say Gamescom in Germany, or the various events in the US.  However, it will be attended by Bioware showing off TOR.

Anyway, to the point.  I've created a QR code for www.followthesignal.net  This could be printed off and placed around the event, with subtlety of course.
Having been to the event last year I know there are many pillars around where some could be attached, along with the inevitable queue barriers.  Plus, we could probably slip one next to the PC we're playing on.

Now, I have come across some positive and negatives to this.

Positive
    I think this would allow us to reach people who wouldn't otherwise look for a guild before the release date.  Furthermore, the recruitment section of the TOR website can be something horrible to look at.  

    The QR code is brilliant in that it holds all the information required to find the page/answer, but at first glance you can't tell what it will say.

    With all the smartphones and similar devices taken to these events, the QR codes will be ideal to get the intrigue going, while making it easy for people to follow.

    With the vast number of similar events taking place over the year (with Bioware/TOR in attendance) alongside the spread of FA members, we could spread this idea further.

    Small possibility the codes, if placed discreetly, would be picked up by some of the media (large and small) attending the event.  Potential to boost interest.


Negative
    The challenge is not accessible with iPhone, iPad, etc or anything that doesn't allow Javascript or Flash.  We would have to re-direct to another page.  Perhaps, extending the challenge via simple pages?

    Just a re-direct to www.followthesignal.net would mean (in most circumstances) people would have to remember when back home to go take the challenge.  Would need give them something to do from pretty much the second they scan the code.  Most people will be queuing for a long time, and would probably take this opportunity to investigate the code further.

    May not be appreciated by organisers of the event or developers attending (most notably Bioware of course)  Perhaps permission should be sought out?

    Possibility of being caught and ruining the mystique and intrigue behind whole idea.  After all, it would be the mystery behind it that would spur people on.


These lists are probably by no means complete.  I'm sure there are more positive and negatives I've overlooked.  And I'm not expecting anyone else to do the legwork in creating additional parts if needed.  Assuming I get permission from yourself (and others if need be) I would like to take on this myself.  Ideally, keeping the idea as quiet as possible.

Anyway, please let me know what you think, and if you consider it viable and/or a good idea.

Kaplin

I'm worried that it will definitely not be permissible at the event.
Title: Re: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Manic Velocity on July 12, 2011, 04:43:32 pm
I think it's a good idea.  Even if they're not permissible at the event, the worst that could happen is they get crumpled up and thrown away.

QR codes are a very cheap and non-intrusive form of advertising.  As long as Kaplin isn't plastering them in every conceivable spot I can't imagine it being much of a problem.  He just needs to be mindful that he's essentially speaking for the faction by putting these things up.  Abusing them would put us in a negative light.  It sounds like he understands that though.
Title: Re: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: NoCry on July 12, 2011, 05:20:14 pm
Personally I like the idea.
Title: Re: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: ArchNemesis on July 12, 2011, 10:20:13 pm
I like the idea as well. I'm just curious how it'll be implemented in a way that keeps people interested till they have access to a pc.
Title: Re: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ash on July 13, 2011, 08:37:01 am
I think it's a pretty slick idea, and maybe we can get them to print the code on a T-shirt (CafePress) and wear it around while they are at the convention.
Title: Re: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Tbone on July 13, 2011, 10:30:56 am
Kaplin got an email back from Eurogamer saying they thought it was a great idea! Let's figure out the best way to do this, then!
Title: Re: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: NoCry on July 13, 2011, 11:00:18 am
viral man; but not so obscure that people dont get it.
Title: Re: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ash on July 13, 2011, 11:32:31 am
Okay, this is just a thought here but how about we pool some money together and get some business cards printed out.  On one side is the QR code and on the other "Are you an Angel?"  We could make the card look completely professional and then have Kaplin and the guys disperse them at the convention.
Title: Re: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Tbone on July 13, 2011, 11:46:08 am
Quote from: "Yotogi"
and on the other "Are you an Angel?"

That may look like they are hitting on them. lol
Title: Re: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ash on July 13, 2011, 12:21:17 pm
Quote from: "Tbone"
Quote from: "Yotogi"
and on the other "Are you an Angel?"

That may look like they are hitting on them. lol


Well we can instruct them to only hand the cards out to females.  I don't see where this is a problem..lol
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Broin on July 13, 2011, 01:12:31 pm
Yeah I love the idea...

I like the business card idea as well... but no sense in stopping there.  

Maybe a few posters or pamphlets... tshirts maybe.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Tbone on July 13, 2011, 01:27:54 pm
Moving this to the member forums so we can get more input!
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Keeloth on July 13, 2011, 02:23:14 pm
Awesome idea!

T-shirts are a must.  The "Are you an Angel?" bit might be a bit much.  Maybe just our logo?
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Arawn on July 13, 2011, 02:33:57 pm
I say we do this. Lets finish planning this so we can start the pooling... First... Who knows a good place to do the cards, etc? Hopefully get a discount for all the things we're asking for.

For the Tshirt I think the Angel Emblem on the front and the QR on the back, thoughts?
Posters... We could use some photoshop experts... is odj still around? Personally I loved his work with the black/white stuff.

I am able to donate like 20-30 dollars and some more over time... depending how much time we got? :P
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on July 13, 2011, 04:32:45 pm
Well, with Eurogamer on-board I'm going to see how far I can push it, and what (if anything) they'd be able to do to help.  Be it giving me slightly earlier access or just not caring where I stuck things.

I myself had considered about putting the QR codes onto the back of myself and a couple of friends.  However, I would want us to appear like pawns in the whole game, so we'd just act dumb if someone asked us about them.  I figure people would be more intrigued if no one around seems to know whats going on.

Perhaps a few different QR codes made into posters, each revealing a part of a message/riddle to lead them on.  A bread crumb trail if you will.
Because the challenge being in flash, a rather major smartphone/tablet is going to have trouble if we direct straight to there.
In keeping with the bread crumb trail, and the idea of it being a signal, perhaps a few messages could be made and spread around the web.  I'm thinking a message in morse code (text and audio), messages within pictures, automated email messages.

I think it would be naive to think we could keep them doing it for over a day (or even the entire weekend) but we just need to get the hooked in so they do two things,
1) Spread the word when they get stuck and start looking for answers and help online
2) Go back to it to take the test perhaps a few days later


When I contact Eurogamer again I will be also be asking whether I need to seek permission from anyone of the publishers/developers there that are showcasing their games if I wanted to leave anything at their booths.  If it is anything like last year, the majority of booths are left unattended (more or less) but my key aim would be leaving stuff at the TOR stand.  
I think this is going to be wishful thinking that I could leave something at a few of the computers demoing TOR.  Given that there would be myself, Ex, Odj and at least a couple of others, we could leave things around at least 5 PCs.  However, my initial instinct would be that Bioware and the TOR team wouldn't want to be seen giving favour to one guild over the other.
Nevertheless, I will put out a few PMs and get an answer either way.

Eurogamer Expo kicks off Thursday 22nd September through to Sunday 24th September.  However, my wonderful work as prevented me from getting down any earlier than the weekend.  So we are looking at two days (most likely the busiest) to spread the word.  Plus, it gives us over 2 months to work this all out.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ketamininja on July 13, 2011, 04:38:42 pm
Wouldn't see Eurogamer having an issue with this at all [seems they love it so great]. There will be plenty of promo people around getting people interested in various products, handing out free stuff etc etc, so we would just be mixing in.

The emblem is perfect, no text needed - this will peek the interest of gamers and non-gamers alike as those who don't know what FA is will see the logo and be curious (subconsciously or otherwise) whether or not they follow it up whether on tshirt, business card, pen, usb stick, whatever...

QR codes are great, so no probs from my POV.
Angel emblem on the front of business card, QR on the back - great.

I have mixed feelings about QR codes on the T's; if we (FA) are wearing the T's around the place, then a big QR on the back is great as people will perhaps scan it as we walk about. However, if there are T's to be handed out to people, then a QR on the back isn't as appealing to receive as a gift maybe, but then I've been to plenty of events like this (not gaming, but business) and all freebies do have the promo stuff on it... so not sure where I stand.

Since the challenge will not work on smartphones due to flash, then perhaps the QR can lead to a challenge that does mimic our usual challenge ethos, but can lead to a free T. Maybe the last part of the challenge will reveal a location at Eurogamer, and a time... those who get there and meet an angel with a password will receive the free tshirt. There could be 10 tshirts to give away. The location / time can be updated by those there as needed...

Perhaps images and MP3 will work so that users can hear/see something on smartphone? I really like the idea of folk doing the challenge whilst standing around at Eurogamer. Although, beware, some people might have an ipad/playbook/tablet which might handle flash. Might want to consider a mobile detection script ready to redirect as needed - would hate for those who can use flash to miss out maybe...


Ultimately, I don't see this as a recruitment drive... but I could see this as a media or spotlight opportunity (such as the MSNBC article from MxO).


USB sticks are one of the most prized items to grab at these types of events. I'm finding it hard to get pricing (it's all quote based), but we might be able to get some made? Logo on the USB key, and files included which lead to the Signal, so they will be able to find it when they go home and use the stick...

Also, don't know if we want some sort of SW:TOR logo or info included on the tshirt/business card to suggest a link between the game and FA. Obviously there are other games...

Just as a side note, these things are usually cheaper to produce in the US. My dad (Florida) is coming over to the UK at the end of August, so if there are savings to be made we could avoid import TAX by getting him to bring them across. I think this could save quite a bit than having an items produced in the UK.... just an option, and I know my dad wont mind.

Also, I am getting the itch to attend now, especially if there are other FA-ers.  :D
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: NoCry on July 13, 2011, 05:26:36 pm
Hehehe. Even I am toying with the idea of heading back to England for the weekend. Wife tolerates earls court trips nd the boys would love it!
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Broin on July 13, 2011, 08:31:28 pm
I say we give away mass amounts of FA swag... Tshirts whatever.  If we are really set on doing this right I am willing to throw several hundred at it.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Anamodiel on July 13, 2011, 08:36:54 pm
Why can't there be any fun Gaming Conferences around my state?!
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: ExternalError on July 13, 2011, 09:16:41 pm
I'm all for this, this will be my 3rd year of attending eurogamer and least year it was host to one of the uk apprentice tv show challenges where the teams were tasked with launching a mobile app at the expo so I thing Kaplins idea sounds a good one.  The way the expo was structured last year everyone had to enter through the 1 entrance up an escalator we could position people there handing out the cards.  We can then arrange a time and a place say 4pm next to the Swtor demo machines or something where once people have solved the clue they are instructed to find an angel operative by asking people around that location "are you and angel?" or something like that, the ones that perform this task win what ever swag we have available also if we create a twitter account we can keep people updated throughout the day as most people have access to twitter.

Also if any of you are over in the UK or are tempted to come over I can hook you up with my contact number so we can meet up.  There will be Myself, Kaplin, ODJ, Wind form FA and also 2 other MxO players from Recursion as well
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Fuse on July 13, 2011, 11:15:56 pm
Love this idea. Love the emblem and QR only. Willing to toss in some money, if assured where it's going.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Arawn on July 14, 2011, 01:15:56 am
I liked the USB with Files in it idea... I agree USB is like the more sought out freebies in these events.

So I guess FA members could have Emblem/QR (Front/Back) and the free tshirts just the Emblem on the front?
Umm what about coins, or hats?
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ketamininja on July 14, 2011, 03:00:25 am
oh my, we are going to need a fundraiser.
Fundraiser plugin for the website to show donations? :D

edit: probably need to focus on the Signal for smartphones. Concept needs to be good if there is no flash. Kinda reverting to challenge 1.0 from MxO! This might take a bit of time and input...
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ketamininja on July 14, 2011, 03:45:55 am
General UK GBP prices for twist USB 1GB (example - http://www.usb2u.co.uk/products_usb_flash_drives_twister.html)

From what I can tell from a few websites that have prices:
50pcs just under £200. £3.xx per unit.

I would expect that the US will do it for $3.xx per unit, which would be quite a saving...



EDIT:
Also, this may hit a few nerves, but getting T's made in china will usually save you big bucks. 100% cotton T's can cost less than $2USD each, compared to over $10USD if made in the US.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ketamininja on July 14, 2011, 10:32:47 am
Signal:
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/367/qrfollowthesignalnet.png)

Short:
(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4507/qrincomingsignal.png)

Full:
(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/2271/qrcode.gif)


Just as examples.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Lithium on July 14, 2011, 12:07:27 pm
Quote from: "Ketamininja"
oh my, we are going to need a fundraiser.
Fundraiser plugin for the website to show donations? :D


If Tbone approves a plan that requires money... then at his request I will set this up.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: ExternalError on July 14, 2011, 12:18:27 pm
http://www.vistaprint.co.uk/vp/welcomeback.aspx?xnav=logo
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: ExternalError on July 14, 2011, 12:53:16 pm
priced up an order of 250 glossy business cards and 50 tshirts of the following sizes

XXL - 15
XL - 10
L - 10
M - 10
S - 5

total cost £362.03

pics below this is just something rough i knocked together in the few mins i had at work

tshirt front
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x298/ExternalError/livepreviewfront.jpg)

tshirt back
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x298/ExternalError/livepreviewback.jpg)

card front
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x298/ExternalError/cardfront-1.jpg)

card back
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x298/ExternalError/cardback.jpg)
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Avzeke (Khr0n1k) on July 14, 2011, 04:19:59 pm
I think it may be a good idea to have a mobile landing page to direct the QR to and then have it link to the challenge from there noting flash is required. Or even a mini-mobile site.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Anamodiel on July 14, 2011, 05:22:57 pm
If we end up using External's images, be sure to remember we have to change the t-shirt to www.followthesignal.net. It's not a .org.

Maybe we could scale the order of the shirts back to 30 shirts? A shirt is cool, but people who aren't in FA will wear it maybe once and then they'll never wear it again. It's a limited novelty, and I'd rather spend novelty money on USB sticks.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: ExternalError on July 14, 2011, 07:50:15 pm
thats cool i just wanted to get an idea of the overall cost the images were just something i knocked together at work so they are subject to change
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Arawn on July 14, 2011, 10:50:46 pm
tbh i think we should remove the link on the tshirts... we dont want people to know its us? until they figure out themself.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on July 15, 2011, 03:38:29 am
Well my communication with EuroGamer would indicate they're happy for us to hand stuff out, but not to leave stuff lying around at stands and alike.  Not surprising tbh, but it was worth asking.

So, I'm thinking just hand out some business cards with the QR code.  That code would lead to a little hunt online (maybe something at the Expo if they let me) and then finishing with a reveal for a location and time to hand out goodies.

I think the business cards should look as professional as possible, perhaps with the FA logo in a metallic/shiny look.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ketamininja on July 15, 2011, 03:47:50 am
Quote from: "Anamodiel"
A shirt is cool, but people who aren't in FA will wear it maybe once and then they'll never wear it again.


Maybe it's just me, but I wear free shirts that I pick up at an event [business] with advertising plastered all over them all the time. I prefer the white T's because they go quite well with most things. If we have a T that has pretty much just our logo and not much else then I think it could be worn quite a lot.

The gaudy T's that I pick up are usually left for when I redecorate the house.

Again, maybe it's just me.
All my free Ts either advertise VMWare, Citrix, McAfee... and they are not usually subtle. I was wearing this T shirt the day this thread was "released":

(http://www.vmwareemeashop.com/images/vsphere%20T-shirt.gif)

Yeah, it's not very nice... again - maybe it's just me!
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ketamininja on July 16, 2011, 04:15:45 pm
Sorry for spamming this thread.
Gamestop have done things in the past where cryptic clues were left around and codes could be "found" and claimed [once only] to get a t-shirt or usb etc.

http://blackops.digitalwarfare247.com/news/another-viral-with-wallpaper has a little info on what they previosuly did with Black Ops... but unfortunately the Gamestop website is gone now... I only have screenshots to work on so I don't know if it's flash or just an image with clickable areas (which works on smartphones?).

Anyway, just thought this might give some ideas on how to move forward for smartphone "challenges".
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on July 17, 2011, 04:35:50 pm
So, with the limited amount I feel we can do (without feeling the wrath of either the organisers or game devs) at the expo, what is the feeling toward making the challenge online, with smartphone friendly pages.  
I'd say we'd want to keep them entertained for the length of at least one queue (ideally TOR) so I'd say around 1 to 2 hours would be ideal.

I would bring it to the meeting on monday, but my timezone prevents that.  

Would like to get a reasonable consensus on what people want to see done within a couple of weeks, so I can start planning stuff out.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Tbone on July 17, 2011, 06:10:49 pm
I don't envision us completing a two hour, smartphone-friendly version of the challenge that will be up to our standards in just one month. The latest version of the challenge took over 6 months, not including all the clean-up time. Granted, we didn't have Revalis around during that time, but I'm not going to be around much to write the script and generate content - pretty busy with work through the end of this month and then planning on going out of town for a few weeks in August.

I think a lot of you have a great ideas, but we should try to come up with something that is manageable in time, cost, and manpower.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Lithium on July 17, 2011, 08:53:25 pm
IDK, people should trade in their iPOS phones for an Android handset because the challenge works just wonderful on my phone!
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ketamininja on July 18, 2011, 03:49:09 am
Damn you Lith. My blackcurrent just can't handle it.

Perhaps we can take elements of the current challenge and put them together without taking up too much time... Considering this challenge wouldn't be a recruitment interview process, but rather a "treasure hunt" at the Expo, we might be able to make it more text/image based.

From what I remember:
The first challenge with the cipher is posted in our forums/SW forums, so this works as text based.
The number sequence is text based too.

We can almost put these type of challenges on a static background image, with clikcable areas to "pop up" the messages. Could kinda work like the blackops Gamestop item I mentioned above. This could mean minial work since we are rehashing the same stuff we already have.

The final stage might have some sort of map of the Expo (these things are usually available before hand).

I can lend some time to this, and if it doesn't manage to get "signed off" in time, then at least it's a work in progress for future events of the same ilk.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on July 18, 2011, 09:04:31 am
Quote from: "Tbone"
I don't envision us completing a two hour, smartphone-friendly version of the challenge that will be up to our standards in just one month. The latest version of the challenge took over 6 months, not including all the clean-up time. Granted, we didn't have Revalis around during that time, but I'm not going to be around much to write the script and generate content - pretty busy with work through the end of this month and then planning on going out of town for a few weeks in August.

I think a lot of you have a great ideas, but we should try to come up with something that is manageable in time, cost, and manpower.


I don't think we should do a smart-phone version of the challenge.  Not least because, as you say, it would take too long.
I was thinking of a different challenge, more of a bread-crumb trail of puzzles and codes around the web (accessible via smartphones).  That would lead to the final reveal (time and location) for the Expo on Sunday.  
It is there we would give out our branded goodies.  The USB stick sounds fantastic because we can stick a shortcut to the challenge in there.

To make the bread trail last 1-2 hours I just imagine the person having to do legwork.  Perhaps to work out a morse code message, or a ciphered message.  Or finding the hidden code in a picture.  Stuff that would be relatively easy in comparison to coding an entire new challenge.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Aracher on July 19, 2011, 08:20:29 pm
Seeing as I will be going to Eurogamer with Kaplin, Wind, External and Odj I'm willing to help anyway I can
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on July 26, 2011, 03:13:00 pm
I did a quick Google for foil print business cards.  Funny thing is, the first link gave me a guy who works down the road (right near where I work) and amazingly used to live in the small village I do.

Anyway, I've asked for a simple, yet professional business card.  Pictured having the FA logo and "Are you and Angel?" on the front typed out in foil.  While the back would be a QR code.
He has currently quoted me around the £290 for 500 business cards.  But that might fluctuate a bit based on our actual requirements.

I just need to know a couple of things.

1.  Could we get that level of funding together?  
2.  Where should we point the QR code?  Should we have a few puzzles and challenges, or just point straight to a meet?
3.  How many cards would we actually want?  Would other people be wanting them to hand out to anything they're going to?

I personally would like to see a couple of puzzles first.  But would appreciate some help in making some, and being able to place them on the web (some stable hosting would be handy).  And I would of course plump up a nice bit of funding too.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Tbone on July 26, 2011, 03:23:49 pm
Quote from: "Kaplin"
He has currently quoted me around the £290 for 500 business cards.  But that might fluctuate a bit based on our actual requirements.

I think you're getting ripped off. Check out this pricing:

http://www.vistaprint.com/business-cards.aspx?xnav=TsrItem&xnid=aPremiumBusinessCardsBusiness+Cards
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on July 26, 2011, 04:04:53 pm
Heh!  It would seem so.  Btw.  Is there a higher res FA logo anywhere?  Only one I could find is in the website header.  The bigger the better I think.

Then I'll make a card template and get some opinions.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ketamininja on July 26, 2011, 04:26:29 pm
I am making a quick mobile site that might be of interest.. if it gets used, fine, if not fine... gives me something to do when I have a moment (which isn't actually much at the moment). Will give some details when I have something to show. If anyone is doing something similar, then all cool.

I would still recommend again that we get the work done in the US to cut costs, and I'll get them "couriered" to the UK at (end of) August :)... I think getting it done in the US will save a LOT of cash.

As for cash, I'm willing to put some towards (could defo get £100 up I think).
Need to get some Paypal details together when we are ready to go.

I think we should still get t-shirts and usb done.
I'd be happy to buy one of each for myself, and other Angels will likely want some merchandise...?
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Aracher on July 26, 2011, 06:40:23 pm
I will cos I'll be going to euro gamer anyway
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on July 28, 2011, 02:04:53 pm
Well, apparently 1000 business cards will cost me £22.97.  I've kept it simple with design.
(http://thumbnails35.imagebam.com/14256/fafdd7142553213.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/fafdd7142553213) (http://thumbnails42.imagebam.com/14256/d73221142553233.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/d73221142553233)
While obviously not apparent, the FA logo will be printed over with foil.  

What do people think?  Obviously not much can change.  Should the text be a different font/size and should that too be foil?  Is the simple correct, or so we want it surrounded by a circle?

Again, once I get some time to think a plan through for the QR code, that will alter it now.  But, in fact, you should be able to scan that code and show it points you to the current challenge.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Tbone on July 28, 2011, 02:17:37 pm
That's the wrong angel logo. That's our old MxO one.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on July 28, 2011, 02:26:39 pm
That's all you have in terms of good quality FA logos.

http://thefuriousangels.com/index.php?topic=5416

Still, old logo or not, it gives you an idea of how it will look.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Wind on July 28, 2011, 02:52:28 pm
My uncle works in print, so if there is something that I can ask him for, just say. Haven't brought this up so far because it didn't seem like numbers were in mind yet.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on August 23, 2011, 08:54:19 am
Ok.  Haven't looked at this in a while.  

Got the QR code done.  Scan it and see...
(http://thumbnails49.imagebam.com/14634/458a78146336652.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/458a78146336652)

I went with something simple, and in keeping with our theme.  Took inspiration from our recruitment thread bumps.

Feedback appreciated.

Still have no good quality image for the current FA signal.  Once I have one I can do another mock up of the buisness card and get that done.  I've tried using the image from both my sig and the banner at the top of the website.  Both are too small to stretch effectively.

If someone can send me a larger version I can get this done and dusted by the end of the week.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ketamininja on August 23, 2011, 09:42:56 am
I wont be able to make it... was hoping to originally.
One of my boys birthday is on the 21st Sep and my wife decided to have the party on the saturday (instead of during the week before the event). My bday is on the 26th Sep so it was gonna be my present to myself, but can't get away now :(   The boy comes first!

If there is anything I can do in the mean time, let me know. Was attempting to get some "challenge" created for mobile (all web and VERY light image based) but been struggling with time). Can contribute funds of course to the merchandise. Need to know the paypal account to send to. Make sure you post all the details for those who will be chipping in.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Maglorius on August 23, 2011, 09:52:52 am
Quote from: "Kaplin"
Ok.  Haven't looked at this in a while.  

Got the QR code done.  Scan it and see...
(http://thumbnails49.imagebam.com/14634/458a78146336652.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/458a78146336652)

I went with something simple, and in keeping with our theme.  Took inspiration from our recruitment thread bumps.

Feedback appreciated.

Still have no good quality image for the current FA signal.  Once I have one I can do another mock up of the buisness card and get that done.  I've tried using the image from both my sig and the banner at the top of the website.  Both are too small to stretch effectively.

If someone can send me a larger version I can get this done and dusted by the end of the week.


Hi Kaplin,

Check out this image to see it will work for you.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x449/Scott_Shoemake/Logo.jpg)
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on August 23, 2011, 10:27:30 am
Muchas gracias.

With that, I have this buisness card.  
Front
(http://thumbnails54.imagebam.com/14635/f4f974146344426.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f4f974146344426)
Back(http://thumbnails47.imagebam.com/14635/08f3e5146344469.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/08f3e5146344469)

As with the previous iteration, the symbol will be foil printed.

Currently the prices on vistaprint sit at:
250 - £10.49
500 - £20.74
1000 - £20.74 (sic)
1500 - £34.79
2000 - £37.99
2500 - £42.99
5000 - £53.99

Foil accent is an additional £7.49 and reverse side is £6.99.
My cart has 1000 cards priced up at £35.22

Given how VistaPrint always changes their offers though, this could change by the time I order.


I have no issue with handing these out at Eurogamer, nor with paying £35 to do so.  But, do you think we should hand some branded goods out alongside too?  Perhaps from our new clothing line?  Or pens/USB sticks/key rings?

Also, should anything else be done with the card itself?  Would everyone be happy to be associated with that card, and what message it sends out to the public?  Basically, would others be happy to hand these out too?
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: likwidtek on August 23, 2011, 11:16:25 am
Just a thought.  With "are you an angel" won't people think it's a creative way to bring people to jeebus?
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Manic Velocity on August 23, 2011, 11:42:20 am
Quote from: "likwidtek"
Just a thought.  With "are you an angel" won't people think it's a creative way to bring people to jeebus?


A few years back I was standing in line at the grocery store wearing an old "Follow the angel" shirt.  A woman standing behind me asked if I was christian and seemed to want to strike up a conversation.  I explained the context of the shirt, and that I wasn't religious.

I think the lack of any kind of traditional religious imagery on the business card will keep people from getting the wrong idea.  It doesn't look like traditional religious marketing.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: ExternalError on August 23, 2011, 12:24:47 pm
Jazzy if you need cash ill sort you out with some I'll get on winds case about t-shirts as someone in his family has a printing business. Also I'll be willing to hand some things out and such.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on August 23, 2011, 12:40:40 pm
Quote from: "likwidtek"
Just a thought.  With "are you an angel" won't people think it's a creative way to bring people to jeebus?


There is probably going to be those few out there that will think that.  But then, there are probably a few out there who would just throw it away out of hand.  Just like when people toss away pamphlets given away on the street.

Hopefully though, the majority will turn the card over, see the QR code and at least be intrigued enough to scan it.

Quote
Jazzy if you need cash ill sort you out with some I'll get on winds case about t-shirts as someone in his family has a printing business. Also I'll be willing to hand some things out and such.


Like I said, I want to know if people want us to hand out some FA branded stuff along with the card.  I think it would be a good way to showcase some of the new store stuff, but we'll see what people say when it comes to parting with cash.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Da6onet on August 23, 2011, 12:44:05 pm
Although we could make more money if we started our own religion. Worked for L. Ron Hubbard :-p
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Maglorius on August 23, 2011, 01:26:57 pm
If it is possible that religion might be tied to the statement "Are you an angel?" Then maybe it should be changed, suggestions below.

"Have you heard of the moons of Iego?"

"Did you hear the signal?"

Could also put above the logo "The Old Republic" that way everyone knows it is game related.

I actually like the statement "Are you an angel?" My only concern is that, if you are a true fan of Star Wars you should know that is the same question that Anakin Skywalker asked Padmé Amidala. Here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP8gd4254ek

I guess if you were at the show and someone asked, just tell them that "Angels live on the moons of Iego, I think."


"Another idea"

Are you an Angel?

LOGO

Is it time for you to ascend?


Just some ideas
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on August 23, 2011, 01:55:18 pm
I don't think many will think it is religious.  We'll be a a gaming convention, no doubt wearing some gaming related clothing and generally not looking all too religious (and I mean no disrespect to those here who are).  Just people go on what you are wearing and doing and make assumptions.  Furthermore, there is nothing on the card to add to the religious aspect.  I mean, unless you're going to argue I might be trying to set-up a religious cult/sect with it's own symbols and beliefs.

I think the "Are You An Angel?" fits with FA and TOR because, as mentioned, it was in the films and is used as our origin story.  Also, I believe that line is used in one or more of our trailers.

Quote
Could also put above the logo "The Old Republic" that way everyone knows it is game related

As for putting in the Old Republic logo, you are going to have issues with people thinking it is officially sanctioned by Bioware and alike.  Could cause a heap of problems.  Also, that image is probably copyrighted too.  Therefore, we would be left with making our own or just having some writing on there saying it is in relation to TOR.  Personally, I think that would take away from the mystique of the card.  Effectively, you've given them clues as to what this is all about, before they've even scanned the QR and took the challenge.
I would also like to think people would use their common sense a little.  I can't vouch for other conventions like GamesCom/PAX/ComicCon, but I would assume that (like Eurogamer) the pamphlets and stuff given out at these places are often within the theme of what the convention is.  Therefore, I would hope most people would realise it is gaming related due to the fact everything else they've encountered there has been gaming related.

I guess you could argue that it would mean we would have some people completing the challenge who have no interest in TOR.  But, I would argue that, with affiliating it with TOR and leaving other clues on the card, you would actually get some people who are into TOR, who would dismiss it out of hand because they've worked out it is a recruitment drive.

Quote
"Another idea"

Are you an Angel?

LOGO

Is it time for you to ascend?

I would argue that this too could be seen as religious.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ketamininja on August 23, 2011, 03:06:58 pm
How about the Galactic Republic logo on it somehow, as well as the FA logo?
Would help link to SWTOR and also show which side we are on ;)
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Erathaol on August 24, 2011, 02:50:33 am
I don't think you should worry too much about seeming "religious."  Sure, some people may think you're recruiting for a religion, and there's a word for those people: idiots.  You're at a gaming convention, for goodness sake!

I don't think there's anything inherently religious with the phrase "Are you an Angel?" and I actually work at a church.
Our target audience will "get it," and the others won't.  If anyone is confused, you can just explain to them that it's for a game.  Not that hard, right?

By the way, I totally dig the cards.  I hope the idea pays off.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on August 24, 2011, 05:09:13 am
Given the several republic insignia, I think I've used the right one.

I added it to the back so as not to confuse the front.

(http://thumbnails54.imagebam.com/14646/92196d146450664.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/92196d146450664)

Price will stay the same though.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: likwidtek on August 24, 2011, 02:08:01 pm
that image host is failing hardcore.  

Let me introduce you to http://imgur.com and all of it's awesome sauce.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: JazzyC on August 24, 2011, 02:49:18 pm
image host works fine for me.

I would upload to your above link, but that's failing hardcore for me.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ghisteslwchlohm on August 24, 2011, 03:31:47 pm
The image works just fine fore me. Likwid I think your internet is throwing a temper tantrum.
Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: Ketamininja on August 25, 2011, 03:43:25 am
Haha, it fails for me at work because it's blocked as "porn".

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Category:   Pornography/Adult Content
Blocked URL:   http://www.imagebam.com/image/92196d146450664
 


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Title: Idea for Recruitment
Post by: likwidtek on August 25, 2011, 11:40:33 am
Could be.  That imagebam site was just cluttered and slow to load.  Imgur is easy peasy drag and drop, super fast plus has an awesome chrome plugin.

Just trying to spread the joy.  :D
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