The Furious Angels
FA Discussion => General => Topic started by: Tbone on May 21, 2004, 02:48:52 am
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That's right. This one should be tough enough to cut back on recruitment quite a bit. Give it a whirl yourself by logging out! If you figure it out, let me know in private.
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well i'm stumped so far :p
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You've outdone yourself on this one. I think I'm on the right track but...meh...dunno.
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This is pretty interesting. I've look at it for 30 mins now and I can't seem to get any where.
.... must not give up.... must keep trying....
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All right, I just have to ask, so I can be sure I'm not chasing red herrings all day... does the ss have any significance?
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I was on the same train of though, Catalyst.
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yea, or is it a diversion? Does the text in the challenge just make up for a sorta random address, or is there a key in it?
Anyways, not coming online again unless I have solved it ;)..
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There is a solution and it does not require any special hacking tools. I will give you the hint that input is in the form of an html (aka http://www.followtheangel.org/solutiongoeshere.html
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Ok, that's a bit better, but I'm still a bit stumped. I'll take another while at it yet.
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Brain...not...WORKING.....
I wish this was as clear as the writing on the wall...
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wow, this is going to keep me busy for a while. if i dont post for a while you all know why.......must....find...solution.
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Well, there go the hours for studying for my midterm. Hope you're happy Tbone..
Just kidding, was programming for another project, just wanted to try to press for a guilt trip for coming up with an excellent puzzle. Not that I've solved it yet....
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Just, wait, give me seven or eight hours.....
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ARGH!!! DAMN YOU SS142!!!!!!!!!
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<----confused whats going on
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heh i thought it had something to do with ss142 also, still can't figure this out though :d
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i've tried various salutions and still nothing.....great new puzzle Tbone, even though it will eat at my mind for ever untill i figure it out, and i'll probably rot a way in this seat for hours on end, but hey great challange......::can feal his mind cracking::
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has anyone actually figured this out yet....im not fishing for clues i just want to know if it is possable. yes and no are the only answer im looking for. and if you did crack it, YAY :)
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Tricky, tricky...I think I'm almost there...
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I am almost 100% sure I figured out what the ss142 is but from there I don't know. Well I guess we officially closed recruiting :)
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W00T! I Got past the 2nd page. Now I am confised the next page says like nothing.
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You cracked the ss142? Nice job. I'll look more after I get back from my midterm...and sleep...
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ya I did, but I don't understand the next one...
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If you thought, or are still thinking, that ours is hard, try getting through these....
http://www.try2hack.nl
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I think it's a dead end once you get to the node, doesn't the data in the node say as much?
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man guys, i seem to be the only one whos gotten through it all. took me a couple hours, then i noticed it was like right infront of my face, it was crazy lol. ok later
Zink
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Grr.
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I haven't finished it yet. But crimson_optix and I found a major problem.
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Just in case anyone else is wondering, it's the fact that I was using Netscape rather than IE. So, if you arent using IE, you may need to try again, and use all the possibilities with IE.
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Ah, that would explain it. Does anybody know if it matters if you're on a Mac or a PC (either using IE)?
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yah mac's suck lol, :)
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Edited for composure.
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As long as it is IE it should be fine for what your are looking for... Even if you don't have IE and are just using netscape there are other ways around it, its just more work.
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Very Well Done Tbone!
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I cant stay offline so long, im back :D..
Im still going to solve that damn puzzle :)...
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omg thank god i joined when i did, i got stuck at that ss124 whatever page.... =(
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Zink seems to be the only one who has completed it so far. Unless someone just pm'ed Tbone..
Oh man, I cant get any stucker than this :)..
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You drove me so nuts with it. My dad is working on it now.
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Beautifully done. I enjoyed it just as much as the last. Now, if only I can finish it....
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Delightful.
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Congratulations to those that have solved the puzzle, perhaps I'm just getting old.
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Well, I think most of us Ventrilo junkies finally got past the first one, but the 2nd one is another story.
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I might as well ask point blank: Is anyone able to get past the ss142 node? (read: YOU ARE A PAWN). I'm looking for conformation and maybe a vague hint.
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My friend hacked it, and the solutions way simpler than i thought it was. Just like the last one where you thought it would be way harder than it actually was, this one was excellently designed to keep the clans population down.
I probably wouldnt of figured it out without a free night to just mess around with it. Excellent, excellent work. At least until someone posts the solution to this one to.
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Where is everyone getting 'you are a pawn' from?
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The next stage in the puzzle.
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This isn't the MxO recruitment forums. You can be less cryptic without giving it away! :P
I also have not gotten past the pawn area. I don't see enough puzzles peices to put together a puzzle there. But, meh.
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I got it finnally lol
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omg i am confuzzled, can someone gimme a hint on what to do with the node?
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I helped DoubleOhZero out a little. There is a solution. Oh, and I fixed the ending so that the guy who posted the link on the MxO forum is useless. A normal person might think "You are a pawn" is the ending to a joke (in other words, that there might be NO ending). A curious person, however, would do their research. Trial and error is a fun technique as well ;-)
Oh, and no one has PMed me the solution yet, so I'm assuming DoubleOh is the only one who actually knows the answer. Those who claim you have cracked it, confirm it with me.
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confirmed with tbone and all solved. Jesus that was hard. My mistake was that I over thinked it. I doubt we'll get a new recruit for a long long time. My advice and tbone helped me realize this... is dont make it more complicated then it is. The answer is always simple. Don't make it harder then it really is. Actually use the clues laid in front of you. They are trying to tell you something.
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Yep. Same here. I had to get a good slap to the face before I got it.
KISS
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I think I need that slap. Still stuck on the ss142.
<edit> Taken out of context, that sounds really weird. </edit>
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Hacked by Tbone. No spoilers please.
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oh ok, ill pm ya tbone with answer.
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Hmm... How should I take that, then? Does that mean I'm on the right track? Or are all attempts to post solution attempts wiped out?
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depends what ya wrote.....oooOOOoooo
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wait if u moved the site. that mean i gotta solve the silly puzzle all over again, well at least the last part? (trying not to give away hints, but really hard to explain it) lol
Zink
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Oh Yeah! got past the first phase, now, to get past the second. Hmmmmmm........
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im stuck on the ss142 bit aswell, just can't figure it out, i know its another link, but finding that is hard
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sorry, I meant, I got past the second one, becuase we have all done the first phase, havn't we?
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Tbone, you have to give us all the help you gave doubleoh and likwid now :).
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grrr im still on the ss142
Tbone, plz help
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Ok, I'll give you all the help I gave them:
"Really? Hmm...that's interesting..."
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The question we should be asking is: what did they say that made you say that, as that would be answering your question.
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heh.
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Kinda stuck on the 4th clue, but figures that it ain't that hard to find the solution
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Huh, where did my post go? I thought i posted here...strange..
Maybe i just preview'ed instead of posting :)..
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I figured it out last night at about 11:30. Really glad I did because it was kind of bugging me. Good luck to the rest of you.
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God damnit!! My buddy Axcigon next to me just cracked the whole thing and it took him 2.5 minutes, and he is now applying for a membership to furious angels..He don't even wanna tell me how he did it! That S*** of a b**** :p
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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my head hurts
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"Hmm...that's interesting..."
So, now the challenge is mixing in Pirates of the Caribbean trivia, is it?
Devious, man, devious.
Yar.
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<slaps>
I...might have deserved that.
<slaps>
I definitely deserved that.
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Everyone knows Johnny Depp's best movie was Cry Baby. it was so awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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so how many people solved it other then me and doubleoh
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Aye. I did.
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im stuck at the whole pawn place. The first thing that comes to my mind is /hardcorepawm.html , but that doesnt work =/
although i did get to level 7 on try2hack :)
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Still stuck on the ss142 bit
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I gave up on try2hack when they told me to download this and download that..
Getting a decompiler for everything got boring..tho i must admit using the java decompiler in certain places was interesting :)..
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hehe, eventually i had to make a vb prog to accept a connection from the try2hack exe you had to dl, getting the prodcedures right was a bitch! =/
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Orasu the ss bit is actually very easy compared to the pawn part.....is there a part after teh pawn? Or is that the last part before the application? I'm still stuck on the pawn....dammit anyone have any as Asha said vague hints? Please anybody?
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im not sure, but i think its still more about the "Node ss142" bit rather than the "YOU ARE A PAWN"....i dunno tho, i havnt really put much thought into yet =] and just thinking over this "hmm..thats interesting" clue... cant figure that one
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I just can't figure out what ss142 could mean on thematrixonline.com... :|
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Whatever puzzle format the Pawn bit is in...yeah, that?...well, my mind doesn't think that way. To me it seems like a lot of guesswork and very little puzzle about it. Maybe I'd think differently if I could figure it out. :P
I know we seriously need to limit our recruitment, but I still strongly believe that this kind of challenge is going to keep out extremely skilled and thoughtful recruits. It would seem to me a better idea to have a slightly more difficult challenge combined with a more stringent application review or trial period.
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so the pawn part is the next clue after the ss142?
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I solved it a few days ago. VERY tough. The kind of people that can get by are the kind we want.
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I'm with Muse. I don't doubt that this challenge is good, because it's stumped a lot of us. I do however question the means by which you solve the puzzle. Again, I don't know the answer. But if it turns out to be something that doesn't make a lot of sense, then I agree with spending some time making it complex, but solvable. The lack of clues so far seems to indicate that giving a hint isn't possible, because the only hint you can give would be the answer.
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The clues are there. You just need to be able to understand them.
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and tbone's hmmm that's interesting clue wasnt a clue it was a joke as in he aint helpin. ;)
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I feel so unworthy now. :)
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im still stuck on the ss142 bit
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So am I, so am I... :(
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I'm not going to say SS142 made all that much sense. However, SS142 is the easiest part of the whole page to understand if you look carefully.
I guess the best hint I can give is what put me on the right path. Search the net for SS142 and see what you come up with. It might give you some hints as to what it means.
As for the pawn, I haven't bothered.
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I've tried it, too much to chose from. Car parts, screenshots (which was my first thought) ecoli, and whatever :)..
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umm the ss-142(aka the uss-37) is a submarine? sorry to any one if that was a spolier
as to searching the web, i couldnt find anything too much stuff to go thorugh
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i think i have an idea about the ss142 and you are a pawn thing but i dont wont to say cuz i might be right lol :D
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I guess the best hint I can give is what put me on the right path. Search the net for SS142 and see what you come up with. It might give you some hints as to what it means.
Uh.
That is not a good hint, unless you somehow stumbled upon the answer in a much different way than I did. People ought not solve the ss142 part from searching google. Its a step-by-step instruction manual pretty much and you need no search engine to help.
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rofl
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I'm not Wooorthy!!! *shoots himself*
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*Joins Oronos in oblivion*
:)
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YOU ARE A PAWN
I have read up on everybodys hints so far and I still cannot make much sense. I do know that it is probablly simple, so much that it is hard.
Anyway, likewidtek etc. if you have any small hint that you could throw at me I will be quite grateful
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i got the ss142 and searching the web kind of helped but when i got it, it was like a fish slap in the face *slap* so now its on to the pawn
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I don't understand how you folks are getting this surfing the web. The answer has nothing at all even remotely to do with general surf stuff (I should know, that was the first thing I tried hah!). It is a very specific puzzle that requires you follow the instructions and you absolutely cannot get the answer otherwise.
I mean, maybe I'm on crack or something but seriously....
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well searching the web does help, though it can also get u confused. It ended up just being something i knew. Made me feel kinda stupid. Like pippmann, i am to onto the pawn.
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Searching the web was meant to give you an idea of where to start if you have absolutely no clue what it means.
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Completed.
I had to take some time away, then go back into it after the break.
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Well i already solved the ss 142 part, it's the pawn part that's making me want to stab myself - sheesh Tbone you really outdid youyrself didnt you?
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I'LL PAWN YOU!!!
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The last post reminds me.... We may have inadvertently begun the alteration of classic internet lingo.
"You've been PAWNED!!!"
It will be all the rage in MxO. ;)
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grrrr still on ss142 part...
oh well i will figure it out eventually...lol
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that pawn is eating at my brain, it makesss meee soooo madd that i cant get it
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the pawn makes pefect sense :)
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It makes perfect sense when you know the answer. What the frig am I doing that I should be doin? I will break this one way or another
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You'll experience a period of frustration AFTER solving the puzzle, since you're likely staring the answer in the face the whole time. Do your research is the best piece of advice anyone can give.
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just take a break for a day or so and then come back to it. Just look at it simply. The clues are there.
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the pawn makes pefect sense
Uh, no. I have solved that part now and I'm still of the opinion that it's not a particularly good puzzle or puzzle piece (the ss142, on the other hand, was). I don't think many people will get it and I also don't feel that it is in any way an indicator of their intelligence or problem-solving prowess. In fact, the answer is achieved through something so mundane in today's society that its almost paradoxical.
Hacked by Tbone. Don't give away too much!
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Hacked by Tbone. Don't give away too much!
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ok i took some ppls advice to lay off of a couple of days then look at it, still nothing i think ill go shoot my self in the face now
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Can I join you?
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that sounds painful.
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well, since it's my birthday today!! I'm 22 now * sigh* can I get a PM with a clue???????* looks hopful* I'm on the pawn thing STILL.....
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God damnit!! My buddy Axcigon next to me just cracked the whole thing and it took him 2.5 minutes, and he is now applying for a membership to furious angels..He don't even wanna tell me how he did it! That S*** of a b**** :p
Heh, yep, I did, and I'm still not telling you aktaion, no matter how much you continue asking about it irl :roll:
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Alright, well I might as well get kicked out of the Angels casue I can't figure the puzzle out
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I feel no better than you mate ;). Luckily I'm not a captain. That would have made me feel even worse :P.
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Only 8 people have finished the challenge, Wolf. Don't sweat it.
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Im almost freakin there....give me a couple more days....luckily I have lots of free time now that im back from vacation....and also because I have my freakin broken leg....
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i still cant figure it out i had a couple good ideas, but they got shot down
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ok im still stuck on the ss142 bit
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ohh im sorry
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I am stumped on the challenge we give to recruits... those who make it are truly awesome... I though am still trying...
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Yeah, the challenge is brutal. I think it might be serving to discourage some bright people because it is different from any other "hacking challenge". For examples, check out http://www.hackergames.net .
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la la la
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Well I think whoever reached the pawn step deserves to be in FA.
Of course unless they post their progress publically.
Who am I hinting at?
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:| I never got past the ss142 part..
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http://thematrixonlineboards.warnerbros.com/newboards/thread.jspa?threadID=2000000952&messageID=2000200479#2000200479
Looks like som1 else cracked it, by the time i read that post and get the url shorty had posted in it.
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You're right. I received his email. He's supposed to send in his application later tonight, and then I'll know for sure if he cracked it.
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It's nice to look at the recruiting thread from this side. It's interesting now, though. I see people's posts & think to myself, "That's not gonna work, but that idea didn't seem nearly as stupid when I tried it..."
It sure is good to be here.
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Yes people have stupid ideas including myself :D.
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From the Recruitment Thread:
"To everyone;
the fact is to be able to "follow the angel" you have to be quit an experienced hacker, it seems a lot of you...are not, not to be mean but if you haven't completed the puzzle by the 1st month your probably not for the angels. An experienced hacker would have the tools and/or progs to trace the node, the intelligence to create his/her own progs to use on the puzzle.
no offence meant...azel"
That's an interesting angle... :mrgreen:
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From the Recruitment Thread:
"To everyone;
the fact is to be able to "follow the angel" you have to be quit an experienced hacker, it seems a lot of you...are not, not to be mean but if you haven't completed the puzzle by the 1st month your probably not for the angels. An experienced hacker would have the tools and/or progs to trace the node, the intelligence to create his/her own progs to use on the puzzle.
no offence meant...azel"
That's an interesting angle... :mrgreen:
Hmm, he completely made that up.
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Hmmm.....interesting. Should we kill him?
j/k.
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I feel so bad im a retard (smacks himself in the head while shouting STUPID STUPID STUPID)
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lol at Iluvatar, I think we should......any plans?
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we could umm poisin his drink or we could hang hi....ohh crap, he is listening
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The answers paradoxical! Well I think it is... I mean sheesh I admitt that I havn't broke the entire puzzle but atleast we can all say that we are persistant!
Someday I am going to kick that pawn in the teeth for payback. Right after I figur..e.... ahh dammit
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I realize that the Illuminati attempted to hijack our thread. Please do not respond to him. I have taken care of matters by posting this in their recruitment thread. Please do not take any action unless authorized by me.
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Git-r-done tbone
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Please don't post recruitment ads on other people's threads. Doing so is a form of spam.
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Sweet. I got backup now!
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back up is always nice, that is low to try to hijack a recruitment thread for your own use, and nice sig by the way tbone
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Sorry for the double post, but I AM A GOD, i got it yay, i am the man boo ya
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>.< i tried ss142 for another hour the other day, that makes about 15 hours, broken down since the thing started, and i still haven't got it, maybe im on the wrong track.
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Hooray! I solved it!
However, I am ashamed to say that I could not do it by myself. I had to read the post in our recruitment thread, which totally explained the significance of ss142 before I could move on. After spending countless hours trying to solve ss142 and failing, it took me all of 30 seconds to solve the pawn part.
You see, all that is necessary is to find out your method of creating challenges. Once the answer to ss142 is seen, you know what format the answers are in.
Because of this, Tbone, unless you want an influx of new recruits who may have "cheated" I strongly advise you to change the challenge again. It appears that there are tons of people that have gotten past ss142 because of the post in our thread, and I am sure they will all get the pawn part soon.
But anyways, I feel much more relaxed now that I've solved it, and props to anyone else that did!
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Don't feel bad. I got that far and sat there for 2 days... not ALL of the 2 days, but still. Then all of the sudden - WHAM!!! Oh, that's it! I'm the man!! Then I was a pawn. That sucked...for another 2 days...but not ALL of 2 days...
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Yeah, I had three people solve it today. That almost doubles the total number of people who have solved it...lol.
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I think the page with ss142 I think had been down at some points. I tried the URL many times over a few days, and it never worked, I tried it again today and it did. That's where I was getting hung up at. That and I think you made it a bit too easy by adding the new clues.
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New clues!?WHERE WHERE!!?
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umm...nowhere...
By the way, have we tried asking an admin or mod to help clean the topic up? This might be a good way to keep it in check. They might say no, but they might also say yes when they see what we are doing. Wouldn't hurt, right?
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If we asked, they'd probably just lock the thread for us and have us start a new one. There's a time for that, but not at this moment.
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Looks like we're gonna start getting flooded. Another one says they got it this morning...how many in a month & a half, then 4 in 24 hours?
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Maybe someone published the answer on another thread....cos two would be possible, three inprobable, but four? That is in the words of whoever made language, impossible.
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As said on Ventrilo, we need to start a new challenge and possibly stop recruitment till then....someone is leaking the answer, or the clue(which, it's not that hard to spot) is helping waaaaaay to many people.
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I looked around on other boards today, not many people posting seem to even be picking up on the clue, let alone figuring out what to do with it. Even if they do get past that part, the next is almost as challenging. If the answer is being shared, it'd have to be in private. Of course, the challenge basically starts at this point now, since everything leading up to it has been given away.
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I agree that the challenge should be changed, i started at like 9:30PM an finally at 12-something i finished, but i didnt really think about it the whole time. I dont know how long it took for others or if my tie was quick, but i think a new one is a good idea.
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It hasn't gotten bad yet. Just because a few people got in doesn't mean the security is compromised. If it starts getting worse, I'll think of something.
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most people who actually get past the last phase wont post the answer just because they have a since of pride that they got it, people who post the answers will post the first and second part because they disgruntled that they cannot get the YOU ARE A PAWN part
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Yes but some people not intent on joining FA would solve it just cos its there to be solved, or solve it just for the fact to post an answer to the challange. Im sure if the three recent people who have joined had seen the answer somwhere they would tell us.
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I think the point of changing the challenge was to slow (not stop) the flow of new members. It's done it's job. We can't change it every month...
I think it's good. :)
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Change it every month... what a good idea! :D
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hah! talk it over with tbone. heh
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There's another one waiting for the secure transmission now. I feel far less special now...
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Are you trying to kill Tbone? Sure changing the challenge would make it much harder to be accepted into the FA but sheesh! Not to mention, people would shun it and us just at the thought of all the different puzzles they have to solve just to get in.
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Hmmm, I dont know. I think I would accept being shunned if we kept the 10 year olds out.
Really, if the challenge crumbles (which, btw, the hard part has), we will get a flood of every new person. Hell, even mxo.cummsucker would be able to get in. We have an excellent community, and since I browse the other major clans forums, we have possibly the best members. Would you want our community ruined for 50 members saying "i pwn j00 dood"? I didnt think so. Thats how the actual MxO community will be, unfortunately, and I joined and stayed in this clan due to the fact they we have a lot of cool members. I dont want to be on ventrilo and hear right when I come in "like oh my god, no, you suck [expletive] more than i do! I had sex with your mom! LOL! HAHAH!"
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Wait, isint that an example of yourself,...jk yeah i like our nice little faction the way it is, with no 1337ers.
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Yeah, this faction really does have gr8 people.
But I think that our most important "gate" to keep out lamers is the application. I mean it asks some quesitons that require *gasp answers in paragraphs! With no 1337 speek!
So far, the flood of people that has joined recently seem pretty cool, but I don't really know them yet.
Perhaps Tbone should start screening the application more carefully?
Personally, I think the only reason I got in was my application...
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Well no one really knows how closely Tbone examines the apps but I think he has done a great job with them. We do have a great community and we have lots of people who are really cool. Hopefully we'll keep that going long into the game and long after, I for one hope that the Furious Angels become one of the first and oldest guilds in MxO. How about you guys?
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we used to vote on them in the captains lounge. What happened to that?
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likwidtek, we would usually vote on the applications that are questionable. If I don't detect a problem then I general just use my own judgement. So far the guys coming in seem to be grade A. If one of them is a spy, they'll be weeded out eventually.
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I think we have an unussually large amount of new applicants flooding in. You think people are leaking the challenge?
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Who knows, mabye they all figured it out at the same time........ :wink:
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I'm not surprised that they did.
After being stuck for a long time, I was able to figurethe whole thing out very quickly when I read the answer to the ss142 part in our recruitment thread.
If I did it, many others cna do it too. I think this is just the beginning. I preditct we will see at least 5 more applications in the next week.
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If you do change it, can you save the present one somewhere because I'd still want to try and solve it.
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it probably will be saved. they are all there.
The original challenge is still saved, if you know where to look.
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Nice job to whoever came up with those challenges. I like them alot, someone should make a thread with extra challenges to do for fun. I did quite a bit of the Hacker WarGames, where you have to go through levels like that, finding the solution to each challenge, and moving up the levels. Although not many people can think of the solutions quickly, there are alot of those Wargame veterans who can answer them in a flash...lets hope not too many are looking for a MxO clan eh? But once again, good job, if you need any help with newer ones, let me know, I have some good ideas.
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YEAH BABY!!! ive got passed the ss142 bit *does little dance*, now another 2 months till i get passed the next bit...
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go quantum, go quantum, its your birthday, its your birthday. Heh good job man
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I got the place your ment to be at to find the answer to the next one, using the same method ive tried everything on the page, but *shurg* ill probably be on it for another 2 months again. Anyway siggy.
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heh you said shurg
tht just sounds funny when you say it outloud
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It sure does likwidtek.
It sure does.
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Well, i beat the new puzzle to get into the clan. What was the old puzzle like?
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Yea, i want to know that too, where can we check it out???
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it was easy compared to this one, but i belive it got erased when this on was released
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aww...i wouldve liked to try it. oh well, no biggie.
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Trust us on this one Darigaaz, the first puzzle was easy compared to the one you passed to get in. I remember we had some othewr puzzles posted on our old boards that we're really fun but I forget who posted them. Maybe we should have them reposted so that those who didn't get to try them can.
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It would have taken you about 30 seconds.
Not nearly as satisfying as this one.
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Yeah the old one wasn't much of a challange once you got past the first bit, still some people had trouble on the next bit in not reading the whole 2nd page, to get password but that stopped people for all of 30 secs.
Part of it still exists www.followtheangel.org/private.html or somthing around that, some people found it when trying to crack the new one.
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I have a question for whoever made the current challenge. On the transmission page, with the three transmissions, how do you get the text to seem like its being typed out right there, ya know with each letter appearing after the one before it?
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Maybe you should have the first challenge made put up and then after they pass the frst challenge they have to go through the second challenge made. Lik ethe irst set of challenges made added with the second set of challenges. That would make people think harder because people would think it is easy to join until they hit the harder challenges that were in the second challenge set.
(http://www.yoxio.com/img/71215.jpg)
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yes i would love to learn the html (or whatever you use) to type words! i need to invest in an html for dummies book ... hehe
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Just view source and you can see the java for it...
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So is there a third version up now?
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I finally friggin figured this challenge out. Ha ha. I must say, I now feel better than I've felt for quite some time. Excellent job with the challenge construction, it had me for a while, and I was headed down the right track, I just had to open my eyes and look around sometime. Guess now I can really call myself a Furious Angel.