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Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2006, 07:10:04 pm
ok ppl let's make this official.  there's been talk of tweaking the uniforms so let's get down to business.  please, only those who have female rsi's as their mains should vote.  comments welcome too.

here's what we have now:
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l24/vermillion2006/screenshot_118.jpg)
fawna is wearing beta glasses and gloves (but really it's your choice), the panama fedora, white snakeskin shortboots, white razorgirl rubber halfshirt, white avera open trench, and white baal vinyl pants.  this is option one.


i've heard some people say they don't like the hat, and neither do i.  so choice two is just can the fedora.


three:  less and more.  no fedora, but we get black snakeskin shortboots and match the guys shoes.  here's vermillion...
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/fawnadigitaldiva/screenshot_136.jpg)


another scenario (my favorite) is with the white pearl flare trench with no shirt...yes it's hawt.  fawna's got it with no fedora and black boots:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/fawnadigitaldiva/screenshot_134.jpg)


and finally, the snakeskin dress with matching boots and white fedora (sorrows i borrowed joy's beautiful image)
(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/245/radiantej4.jpg)


that's what i got.  if you don't like any of these then you must at least put in a suggestion please :)  ok, go!
Title: Re: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2006, 07:47:05 pm
I guess I'm oldschool and like the snakeskin =p
Title: Re: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Manic Velocity on November 21, 2006, 08:23:05 pm
Snakeskin ftw.
Title: Re: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anamodiel on November 21, 2006, 08:57:59 pm
Snakeskin.

However, if it is decided to wear the Winter coat.. we should have the Snakeskin boots. They match a lot better and don't look as tacky. There's no black anywhere else in the uniforms so putting black in, although "matching" the male uniform, would degrade from the overall uniform. The black matches the guys because its in the suit coat. There is little black in ours, and the little that's there doesn't stop the eyesore.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2006, 12:06:06 am
First choice, Snakeskin.  Second runner up, winter coat.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2006, 02:42:38 am
Boobie Jacket ftw!
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2006, 03:03:57 am
This is what I love about Ana - he gets so into character :D
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anamodiel on November 22, 2006, 07:58:20 am
Quote from: "Destyn"
This is what I love about Ana - he gets so into character :D


LMAO.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Fuse on November 22, 2006, 08:11:28 am
I voted for the jacket and boots, but prefer it with a white avero skirt than the pants.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Styan on November 22, 2006, 11:23:30 am
i like the snakeskin...
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2006, 01:57:38 pm
ana i hear what you're saying about the boots.  i just thought that it was tbone who wanted the girls outfits to match the guys.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Strod on November 22, 2006, 02:37:30 pm
Ya the Snakeskin rocks!

What?    Yea!

(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5091/thejoysqj2.jpg)
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Tbone on November 22, 2006, 03:10:06 pm
Personally, I think the closer the female outfit resembles the male, the better. The snakeskin just doesn't look good for so many occassions, such as combat, and stands out too much when side by side with the male. I say the coat with no shirt, but why without the fedora?
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anamodiel on November 22, 2006, 03:28:28 pm
Quote from: "Tbone"
Personally, I think the closer the female outfit resembles the male, the better. The snakeskin just doesn't look good for so many occassions, such as combat, and stands out too much when side by side with the male. I say the coat with no shirt, but why without the fedora?


But I think that the women can live without the black shoes, right? We don't need to go so far in trying to match that we just get an eyesore.

And to "refute" your point about matching the males.. Did you ever go to the Prom or Homecoming? Whenever the girls and guys tried to match, they only matched in color and shade. Dark red with dark red, light blue with light blue. The girls normally had a dress on, but you could still really tell that the guy and the girl still went together. The girls didn't wear suits and the guys didn't wear dresses. They looked different, but matched. I think that's how it should be for the females, too. It just doesn't seem.. right wearing a trench when I could be wearing a dress. Sure, female trench coats look cool, but I think dresses are cooler. Unless it's Winter, women shouldn't be wearing big, long coats.

I personally like how the Snakeskin looks in combat... :(
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Strod on November 22, 2006, 03:39:02 pm
IMO, The Snakeskin looks better than anything I've seen so far as to a matching outfit for the Males ones. Some parts are to shiny or are not just the right colors or shade of white like the male outfit it. In the end I highly doubt a good shade matching and texture matching out will ever be found.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Tbone on November 22, 2006, 05:01:15 pm
It looks stupid fighting in a dress. And you aren't going to prom - you are kicking ass. Female long coat, white slacks...just makes more sense to have a female version of the FA uniform than for the female FAs to just look like the "real" FA's prom dates.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2006, 05:28:35 pm
i don't like the dress either, and i agree with t.  but like i said in the first post, voting should be limited to those who have females as their mains.  so with the exception of t's opinion, this really should be left up to saf, ana, me, kayda, and lits, yes?
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anamodiel on November 22, 2006, 05:29:59 pm
Quote from: "Tbone"
It looks stupid fighting in a dress. And you aren't going to prom - you are kicking ass. Female long coat, white slacks...just makes more sense to have a female version of the FA uniform than for the female FAs to just look like the "real" FA's prom dates.


So does that mean your vote is a "no" or is it not an option at all?

Quote from: "xVermillionx"
I don't like the dress either, and I agree with t.  but like I said in the first post, voting should be limited to those who have females as their mains.  so with the exception of t's opinion, this really should be left up to saf, ana, me, kayda, and lits, yes?


No, everyone should have a say. They're part of the faction, too, and they also have to see the uniform, so they have just as equal an opinion as we do.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Strod on November 22, 2006, 08:21:13 pm
Might as well just vote the Snakeskin out, its the majority's favorite but its "flow" isn't right it seems.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2006, 08:24:24 pm
Quote from: "Anamodiel"

No, everyone should have a say. They're part of the faction, too, and they also have to see the uniform, so they have just as equal an opinion as we do.


i don't think the girls were consulted on the guys uniforms, and i don't think it matters.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2006, 08:43:09 pm
I like the one in the first pic of Vermillion on the ground. Or the Snakeskin one Sorrows posted.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Ash on November 22, 2006, 08:44:53 pm
Meow!!....Hiss, Hiss

Retract the claws ladies, lets keep things civil.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2006, 08:45:52 pm
Quote from: "Yotogi"
Meow!!....Hiss, Hiss

Retract the claws ladies


Sorry, had to laugh on that one heh.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2006, 09:45:52 pm
i'm not trying to be snooty, really!  just making a point.  :(
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Tbone on November 22, 2006, 11:31:04 pm
No one was consulted on the male uniform! Gwahaha! Oh well...if it were up to me, all...er...most of the women would just be naked! Hehe
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2006, 12:26:34 am
:P
but then we wouldn't match  ;)
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Ash on November 23, 2006, 12:54:05 am
I think I speak for most, if not all, that we would learn to live with it.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Lithium on November 23, 2006, 01:32:35 am
Quote from: "Tbone"
No one was consulted on the male uniform! Gwahaha!


That's not entirely true, you designed it, I threw out the idea to make it standard uniform, and then everyone agreed and went along with it, so we kinda were consulted.... kinda.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2006, 02:16:10 am
Well, regardless of outcome, Shirokumo will almost always wear what she always does. It's all-white and looks rather good (If I do say so myself). Just because it was "she" prefers to wear. "She's" a bit too free-spirited. However, if done in character, I'm sure "she" could be convinced to choose one or the other. "She" is after all designed after a blend of personalities from specific individuals in the faction. Kayda being one of them.

But, I digress. You'd have to convince "her".
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2006, 03:00:12 am
ffs... why don't we just get all the women and all their clothes in one place and see what looks right on the screen...

Or failing that, have a separate poll on each item of clothing :D
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2006, 12:38:17 pm
I agree with Destyn, why not have somewhat of a FEM FA UNI Fashion show to get a bigger range of opinion on it.  Option 2, Use all your variations and Each Fem can pick which variation they want to wear on their Fem RSI, i mean as long as you see the tag over your head peeps know when your wearing a FA UNI and when you not.  All the variations are mostly white with maybe black boots so i think just wear any one of them that you like.  Then you'd all still be wearing a FEM FA UNI of some kind.  Isn't that the whole point?  Plus your the one that has to run around lookin like that so shouldn't like it too?  Thats my opinion and feedback.  Let me know what you guys think
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Lits on November 23, 2006, 03:36:22 pm
well if that works, then cool. really it's just the image of white trenchcoats and hats that people identify us by. that's why i voted to keep it the same, but if there is some variation i wouldn't see a problem with that, so long as the overall IMAGE of FA is kept.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Lits on November 23, 2006, 03:36:52 pm
that and i could keep mine the way it is now.... i really like it.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Lits on November 23, 2006, 03:37:36 pm
not that i've had much chance to get ingame and represent that lately....


triple post? does that make me a spammer?
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2006, 11:28:45 pm
ooo000ooOOoh spammer  :)
really if i had known this was going to make such a mess, i would have said screw it  lol  honestly if we all can't agree on anything then i guess we should leave it alone.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006, 12:11:52 am
Quote from: "xVermillionx"
really if I had known this was going to make such a mess, I would have said screw it  lol  honestly if we all can't agree on anything then I guess we should leave it alone.


There's no sens eit leaving it be. It's obvious we need to come to a decision. In saying that perhaps we should make it according to the poll since the majority has spoken.? :)
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006, 12:23:50 am
tbone doesn't like the dress.  that pretty much sounds like a veto.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006, 05:19:55 am
I don't like the dress, either. But, that's because I've had to stare at it since January of last year, when the game was still in Beta. I think I'll keep what Shiro has on.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006, 07:20:26 am
You could always just wear razorgirl suits and the hell with the rest of the outfit :D
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anamodiel on November 24, 2006, 08:33:42 am
Hardy hur hur, Destyn. Those catsuits are ugly as crap (unless, of course, they made it all white...)

Nooooo! Not a veto on the dress! Say it ain't so, Tbone! His vote is just a "no". Yeah, that's it. His vote is just a "no". I'm paying no attention to that man behind the curtain!! I'm going into my little corner now...

o.o
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006, 11:49:07 am
So.. er... what the hell's going to be done about this lil' discussion? The votes are in...
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Subb on November 24, 2006, 11:53:13 am
:O Ana's not happeh.... fear the unhappeh Ana...
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Da6onet on November 24, 2006, 03:38:31 pm
How about every stop being a woman about this issue?

The way I see it,
Tbone = dictator, what he says is law, thus HE alone makes the decision and we accept it, end of discussion.

OR

Tbone relinquishes his power to the RSI's that have boobs and the loudest voice amongst them wins.

Seems to me Tbone needs to step in here and just tell the women how it's going to be.

If he is not going to do that, then the only person who should have a say about the female uniform is the woman who bitches the most.

Enough with this half-assed shit.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Tbone on November 24, 2006, 04:59:09 pm
Well, personally I've never liked that dress. The only reason I didn't say anything sooner is because Grim was always real pissy about it.

I went back and looked at our original video, trying to see what you guys see in the dress. To me it still looks like someone just stepped out of prom or some formal evening occassion, and the fights that were shot in that dress just kinda looked ridiculous. It doesn't really strike me a sheek and stylish - more like something I'd find in the evening wear competition of a pageant.

As for ultimatums of one way or another, I pride myself on the "half-assed shit" of talking things out and working on compromise. If you don't like the way we're conducting business, you can ignore this discussion.

Now a lot of you like the snakeskin dress and a lot of you don't. I've given several reasons why I do not like it. I feel like it makes the women look like our prom dates, it doesn't match the men's uniform, it isn't as sleek and stylish, and it looks awkward to see someone fight in an evening dress. I haven't really heard the reasons why those who do like it prefer it (besides that it's "purty"). To be honest, my preference is to have some form of long white coat and white fedora - I think it's more important to match style in some form of white than to try to match shades of white, but I'm willing to hear the arguments for the other side.
Title: Re: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006, 05:10:19 pm
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l24/vermillion2006/screenshot_118.jpg)

Other than the Snakeskin I REALLY like this one. It obviously has the color as well as the trench and hat Tbone said.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006, 06:29:37 pm
I'll be the first to admit that the only reason I like the snakeskin is because it's pretty lol.
  The more I look at all the pictures and think about it, honestly, although I like the "boobie coat", the current uni is the most comparible to the mens uni and it does complement it.
   But that's just my opinion.  It would be nice if they would add womens suits into the game, or at least some female clothes that are close in color to some of the mens clothes, but that's just wishful thinking on my part.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006, 09:10:44 pm
The more I see Saf in the outfit I previously posted the more I like it so yeah my vote goes to that: 1.) It looks good with the male uniform 2.) It's SEXAY (on SAF!)
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Lits on November 24, 2006, 10:16:17 pm
Quote from: "xVermillionx"
ooo000ooOOoh spammer  :)
really if I had known this was going to make such a mess, I would have said screw it  lol  honestly if we all can't agree on anything then I guess we should leave it alone.


*sigh* this happens everytime a new female comes on board.... guess i can't fight it forever
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anamodiel on November 24, 2006, 10:26:07 pm
I for one would actually love women suits in the game. How hot is Agent_Pace? Smokin'. It's not because she's a woman, but because she dresses like a professional and has a professional skirt on. I would totally ditch the Snakeskin in favor of the more suitish-look. It just looks more professional. But we currently can't get that.

The main reason that I personally like the Snakeskin is because it seems the most womanly. Trench coats seem more like they're meant for the men, but that's just me. Sure, showing your belly button and stomach is "womanly", too, it seems promiscuous and is not as professional. With the Snakeskin, it gives off the "vibe", to me anyway, of class, even if it does show off more skin. Our current uniform, although matching very closely to the males looks very good, but reminds me of "Hit me Baby..." by Britney Spears. I like the way our current uniform looks, but the Snakeskin gives off a sense of more class, sophistication, and sexiness than our uniform as it seems more adult. Our current uniform seems more "trendy" than the dress.

As for the combat issues... I'm noticing polygonal issues more-so than the it-seems-weird-to-fight-in-a dress-issues, and that's only with certain moves that happen for a few seconds. Then again, what piece of clothing doesn't have it's polygonal issues? It's MXO for pizza's sake. Maybe if I had a more powerful rig I'd FRAPS some stuff of me fighting Saf in the current uniform and Verm in her version to see which looks the best in combat.

I digress. If the uniform stays the same, that's great. Less work on my end; however, I would be thrilled if we were to go back to the traditional dress. Everyone thinks of the Snakeskin as the FA dress because of the original video we made. It's kind of already... "trademarked", if you will. Here are some quality screenshots of the main three contenders next to the male uniform without overbright on.

(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7669/screenshot716hf4.th.jpg) (http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7669/screenshot716hf4.jpg)(http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5748/screenshot714eq4.th.jpg) (http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5748/screenshot714eq4.jpg)(http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1623/screenshot707xw8.th.jpg) (http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1623/screenshot707xw8.jpg)

I'll try to FRAPS some stuff is someone requests it.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006, 10:42:00 pm
I like the one on the left and right. Of course I've already said that like 3 times. :P
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2006, 03:34:37 am
Personally I like the center trench.  Less is more.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2006, 10:03:27 am
After taking more time to study the new pics comparing them to the male uniform... I'm starting to change my mind from the snakeskin to the one on the left...  the way it already is. The trench just seems to go well with the male uniform despite the color differences.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Tbone on November 25, 2006, 10:39:06 am
Actually, I just found some more items that we might want to include ;) :

(http://thematrixonline.station.sony.com/images/en/content_images/articles/image_retrieval/061122_holiday_lg.jpg)
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2006, 11:30:40 am
Hehe yeah it would be nice if they included all of that outfit in game for use, but I think they are only offering the gloves. :2'(
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2006, 03:00:49 pm
where/when the hell was that taken? I don't recall any outfits like that :/ ...
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2006, 03:01:16 pm
zomg i totally slept through christmas.  where the hell was i???
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anamodiel on November 25, 2006, 03:53:58 pm
Yeah, T, they're only offering four things in both male and female versions:

Black Formal Gloves
White Formal Gloves
Black Formal Hats
White Formal Hats

The sleevelets you see on that female are NOT available, and were stolen from Ookami and are only available for one body type. Oh, yes, I asked. I think the Snakeskin would look awesome with those tall boots, though...
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2006, 04:22:34 pm
Woodgrain, that screenshot was posted in one of the recent image retrivals I believe.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Tbone on November 25, 2006, 04:44:15 pm
Not even the sleeve thingies? eh, ghey...

Well, at least we can have white gloves...lol
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2006, 04:55:28 pm
Damn the Devs for teasing us!!! /cry, I would love to get ahold of the top at least, and the boots..
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Tbone on November 25, 2006, 05:26:13 pm
Yeah, what a Brewkonian thing to do...
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anamodiel on November 25, 2006, 06:42:49 pm
We'd also have to re-do the original FA video if we wanted to have something other than the Snakeskin.. XD
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anamodiel on December 10, 2006, 06:01:31 pm
Sorry to bump this thread.. but do we have a final ruling?
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2006, 08:34:19 pm
of course not  :)
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2006, 08:50:44 pm
On a more serious note, we REALLY need to like decide on this instead of (forgive me for saying ^_^) beating around the bush on it. Heh. :P Like... really.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Tecknik on December 12, 2006, 02:37:04 pm
"If it isn't broke, don't fix it." ;)
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Lits on December 12, 2006, 11:31:14 pm
Hear, hear.
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Pirus on December 13, 2006, 05:04:03 am
all I know is if you girls wear the snake skin .. do tell me when youre going to shed :)
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Lits on December 13, 2006, 11:17:36 am
cheesey, but creative. I give it an 8.7
Title: ladies uniforms (again)
Post by: Pirus on December 13, 2006, 11:40:34 am
lol as long as it made you smile my day is complete
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