The Furious Angels
FA Discussion => Off Topic => Topic started by: Subb on January 19, 2011, 04:30:23 pm
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Through a press release today it is confirmed that:
Tom Hardy (Inception and Bronson star) will play 'Bane' and that Anne Hathaway will play 'Catwoman'. (http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/114/1144798p1.html) Excited about Bane (Tom Hardy is my favourite actor) but am laying closer to a 'Nay' for Anne Hathaway as Catwoman (or Catwoman in general as a villain, but in Nolan we trust.
DISCUSS.
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Well, in my mind so far Nolan is 2 for 2, though I wish he had saved Twoface for a more major villain role. I'mm wait to see how this turns out :)
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I was never a big fan of Catwoman, but I do love me some Bane (he broke Batman's back, that's totally badass!). I do so hope Nolan keeps up his track record of awesome movies; Batman deserves it.
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I trust Nolan, but I too am skeptical of both villains in general. As a matter of fact I recall him saying he wouldn't use Catwoman a long time ago, like before Dark Knight. But, again, I trust him.
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I've always felt that catwoman was created to pander to female viewers and to adolescent boys and really brought nothing to the development of the franchise
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Anne Hathaway + skin tight black leather + whip.
I will be seeing this movie.
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Anne Hathaway + skin tight black leather + whip.
I will be seeing this movie.
Lol...My point confirmed.
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In Nolan we trust
Indeed, he knows what's at stake and given his track record he will deliver the sweet goods. I'm hoping he's got another character up his sleeve that hasn't been mentioned, but that's just illogical.
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Rumor has it Catwoman will be filling the void that the now fugitive Batman is leaving, so while a villian she may not be all out.
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Personally I've always wanted to see them do the Frank Miller Dark Knight Returns graphic novel....
And of course the Kingdom Come Graphic novel into a movie would be good as well.
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Personally I've always wanted to see them do the Frank Miller Dark Knight Returns graphic novel....
That would be awesome. I love that one, and I would love to see it in movie form, but they would definitely have to do it right. I'm always trying to think of someone to play batman, and I want someone who's like a combination between Clint Eastwood and Stephen Lang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Lang)
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Well, Im not going to lie.. my bet was on Catwoman and the Riddler....... I figured they would bring catwoman in as a love interest now that whats her face is gone... Batman needs his heart healed and a reason to keep fighting the good fight..
Since the 1990s, Catwoman has been featured in an eponymous series that cast her as an antihero rather than a supervillain. The character has been one of Batman's most enduring love interests.
-Wikipedia.org
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Well, I'm not going to lie.. my bet was on Catwoman and the Riddler....... I figured they would bring catwoman in as a love interest now that what's her face is gone... Batman needs his heart healed and a reason to keep fighting the good fight..
Since the 1990s, Catwoman has been featured in an eponymous series that cast her as an antihero rather than a supervillain. The character has been one of Batman's most enduring love interests.
-Wikipedia.org
I 'spose the anti-hero side would be kinda cool; but I'd rather just the love interest and Batman's struggle to cope with the fact that he has to bring her to justice.
Bane - NEEDS - to injure batman badly in someway for CW to become the temporary hero (or dare I say... Robin/Nightwing?)
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No no no no, don't ever say Robin or Nightwing... ever.
Christopher Nolan is on record many times that they will NEVER make an appearance in his take on Gotham.
Anyway, another actress, not yet announced, is supposedly being cast as Bruce's love interest, so I wonder if there will be dueling ladies. One for Bruce and one for Batman. Also, I'm looking forward to seeing Nolan's take on Bane, since I sincerely doubt he's going to make him a Hulk-like freak when filled with Venom. Nolan's all about the theoretically real.
Also, I wonder how these 2 villains can help bring this tale of Batman to its conclusion. I felt Riddler would have been a much stronger foe to bring Batman's journey to an end.
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Am I the only one who believes Rachel is still alive? I've watched the scene tons of times, and you never actually see her die. Nolan is very good at showing only what he wants the audience to see in order to get them thinking down a certain path. Every scene is shot with this in mind. The Joker was a master of fucking with people's heads, so it makes perfect sense that he would trick Batman into thinking Rachel was dead.
In fact, that's probably why he gave Batman the opposite addresses of where Harvey and Rachel were. Knowing Batman would choose to save Rachel, but finding Harvey in the building he thinks he's inadvertently killed Rachel, thus breaking him completely, leaving Joker to burn Gotham to the ground.
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I was pretty certain you see her literally disintegrate from the explosion. Like you can see her skeleton for a second.
Ok, I looked at again and you just see her hair get blown forward and you can the light of the flame start to engulf her and then it cuts away.
What scene/movie am I thinking of where you can see the skin get blown literally off? lol
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Am I the only one who believes Rachel is still alive?
nope.. I thought the same thing until they cast catwoman.. IF catwoman plays a love interest in the slightest then rachel HAS to be dead.. because he has such an addictive love to Rachel it eliminates the plausibility of him falling for someone else..
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Rachel is dead.
You're like all those people asking if Harvey Dent is really dead that try so hard to guess a surprise comeback they just need Christopher Nolan to tell you face to face, they are dead and will not be back.
Your second paragraph is correct.
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What scene/movie am I thinking of where you can see the skin get blown literally off? lol
Well here's one where the skin is ripped off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC8i6kUI-R0
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My assumption was Rachel was killed off purely from the view point it was Maggie Gyllenhaal.
I mean, if that is the girl who has to Batman's love interest, who wouldn't want to kill her?
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I was pretty certain you see her literally disintegrate from the explosion. Like you can see her skeleton for a second.
Ok, I looked at again and you just see her hair get blown forward and you can the light of the flame start to engulf her and then it cuts away.
What scene/movie am I thinking of where you can see the skin get blown literally off? lol
Maybe you're thinking of the dream scene in Terminator 2 where the bomb goes off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdXU4R8JBe4
There's certainly some disintegrating people in that scene.
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That was exactly my thought when I read Tbone's post Erathaol.
And I had always been hoping they would be make the main villain be the Riddler, and make a minor villain of Harley Quinne. I'm a little disappointed to hear the replacements, but "in Nolan we trust" right?
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My assumption was Rachel was killed off purely from the view point it was Maggie Gyllenhaal.
I mean, if that is the girl who has to Batman's love interest, who wouldn't want to kill her?
False, she was always supposed to be killed in the series to create the permanent drive for Bruce to be Batman. He wanted to quit to be with her and her death sealed his fate to forever fight crime, or at least stop the Joker.
Though, the Joker was also supposed to be in the third one originally and with that out the window it changes things.
I do agree however, that Maggie was a terrible choice to play her in the second one and was far from a realistic love interest for Bruce. I mean he has everything and she is fugly. I don't like Katie Holmes as an actress but at least I think she's cute.
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Did someone die that way in Iron Man maybe? Why can't I remember??
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Matrix revolutions? When general whatshisname gets ripped to shreds by the sentinel wave?
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Did someone die that way in Iron Man maybe? Why can't I remember??
Your probably thinking of Watchmen sir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpeDO8L0xs8
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If we proved nothing else with this thread it's that there is no shortage of bodies being ripped/stripped/exploded in film.
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Nope, it's not Watchman. But it was a movie that was made in the past 5 or 6 years, I'd say. So it's not Terminator either. It's kinda the same effect as Watchman.
It's a tight shot of the woman's face. I believe the explosion came from behind her. You see the fire blow past her face and the skin is blown off and immediately after the skeleton disintegrates as well. If you blink, you miss the skeleton completely. I just remember being shocked that the a female romantic interest would have such a graphic death.
I could have sworn it was Batman, but maybe I'm mixing up movies. I don't know!
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Definitely not Batman. Two-Face is the only flesh and bone you see. I'd love to learn wtf T is talking about though.
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I'd love to see them do the Riddler justice, and I think that no matter what this will be a great third installment of C. Nolan's Batman saga. However, I'd love to see a director come along who could do it the same kind of justice but would be willing to hit the less realistic villains like my all-time favorite: Clayface.
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The only way I could see them doing clayface is someone who is amazing with prosthetics and disguises ala Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible.
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Personally I've always wanted to see them do the Frank Miller Dark Knight Returns graphic novel....
And of course the Kingdom Come Graphic novel into a movie would be good as well.
The Killing Joke and A Death In The Family please.Well, I'm not going to lie.. my bet was on Catwoman and the Riddler....... I figured they would bring catwoman in as a love interest now that what's her face is gone... Batman needs his heart healed and a reason to keep fighting the good fight..
Since the 1990s, Catwoman has been featured in an eponymous series that cast her as an antihero rather than a supervillain. The character has been one of Batman's most enduring love interests.
-Wikipedia.org
Talia al Ghul would have been a much better love interest/villian/antohero. Ends up being Bruce's wife (for a little while), and the mother of Damian.
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Now that filming has started a couple weeks ago all across the world, I thought I'd update this thread because I cannot wait for this movie. Today, they opened up:
http://www.thedarkknightrises.com/
currently it is blank with a weird chant going on. I never got into it until after The Dark Knight was released, but they had an amazing viral campaign out there surrounding the movie and Joker the last time.
Today they also revealed the first image of Tom Hardy as Bane!
(http://cdn.batman-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/forhashtagunaltered-1.jpg)
Lastly on http://www.thedarkknightrises.com/image.html it seems they are using tweets related to the movie to create that image, interesting.
I AM STOKED. On a slightly related note, last month Kiefer Sutherland and 24's producer announced the 24 movie will also release next summer! If 2012 marks the end of the world, at least we go out happy.
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Hmm.... not exactly faithful to the comics. Glad to see the lack of Venom usage though.
Should be interesting me thinks.
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The Killing Joke and A Death In The Family please.
Talia al Ghul would have been a much better love interest/villian/antohero. Ends up being Bruce's wife (for a little while), and the mother of Damian.
Killing Joke maybe, DITF no, to much crazy stuff in that book that was completely nonsensical.
As for Talia her being Bruce' wife has been retconned out and the whole Damian bit according to Bruce is that she raped him to conceive him. Talia is a fundamentalist. She has her way and may mean well but she will kill whoever she has to to accomplish what she wants.
Read Heart of Hush (as well as the rest of Paul Dini's run on Detective Comics, major Animated Series nostalgia in those) though and you will be sold on Bat/Cat shipping.
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Rachel is dead.
You're like all those people asking if Harvey Dent is really dead that try so hard to guess a surprise comeback they just need Christopher Nolan to tell you face to face, they are dead and will not be back.
Your second paragraph is correct.
which is something Im annoyed with more or less. I realize its a more realistic approach to Batman, but Batman rarely (only the joker) killed off villians. Hence a zoo full of supervillians called Arkham Asylum.
My best friend and major comic book nerd is pretty ok with the new movies under the premise of plausible deniability that the villians could survive in some way. Ra's Al Ghul is "immortal" thanks to the Lazarus pit, and convinced me that Harvey Dent died the way most characters in comic books die; in a way that means they will or can be back later.
I personally always liked Selena Kyle, she was always something of a soft spot for Batman. A love interest and villian, she tugged at the strings of Batman's heart as to what was the most important to him.
I never did like what they did with Bane the first time around, so im hoping they do him justice this time.
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Hmm.... not exactly faithful to the comics.
If he was faithful to the comics, we would have had another Joker and two-face whose deformities were derived from acid. Thank God he's not totally faithful to the comics or I wouldn't like his movies nearly as much! lol
If you want it to better follow the comics, go watch the Burton and Schumacher movies. There's a reason Nolan got a chance to remake them. Not that the Burton ones were bad, just more...comic-y...same reason Superman and Siperman are being remade now too!
I look forward to seeing what Nolan does for a finale
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Hmm.... not exactly faithful to the comics.
If he was faithful to the comics, we would have had another Joker and two-face whose deformities were derived from acid. Thank God he's not totally faithful to the comics or I wouldn't like his movies nearly as much! lol
If you want it to better follow the comics, go watch the Burton and Schumacher movies. There's a reason Nolan got a chance to remake them. Not that the Burton ones were bad, just more...comic-y...same reason Superman and Siperman are being remade now too!
I look forward to seeing what Nolan does for a finale
First no need for hostility was just making an observation on the look and if you notice I said that it should still remain to be interesting at the end of that post you decided to cut off.
That said your comparison doesn't work. Both Two-face and Joker still held true to their normal depictions as well as Scarecrow and Ra's despite their changes in origin. Bane on the other hand has had his Luchador mask replaced by a very weird looking full head contraption that doesn't look to serve any purpose since it's not attached to anything that remotely looks like it's dosing him with any kind of drug. The teeth bit in the front also bothers me.
Granted casting an English actor for a Latin character was of course going to require some changes and the Luchador mask wasn't going to work as the mask itself has some special meaning to the character that doesn't work without the former wrestling history. That said I had at least hoped Nolan would use that opening to instead play up the intelligence of Bane, we may still get that but that mask he is wearing makes no sense without context and I am not willing to clap my hands and cheer for Nolan's choice in replacing a meaningful object with something that just looks cool without knowing why.
I have faith in Nolan to put out an amazing movie but that doesn't mean he gets a slide from critiquing (granted again without context it's mostly just speculation) him along the way. As always though I will save my own final feelings towards the film after I have seen it in theaters come next year.
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[ (granted again without context it's mostly just speculation) him along the way. As always though I will save my own final feelings towards the film after I have seen it in theaters come next year.
Well said, and that's all we can do.
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The teeth bit in the front also bothers me...
Granted casting an English actor for a Latin character...
It's an upside-down skeletal hand, I believe, on the front of the mask. Plus, it would not surprise me if Hardy perfects a Latin esque accent; youtube him in interviews and his voice is completely different to every single film he's been in.