The Furious Angels
FA Discussion => Off Topic => Topic started by: likwidtek on March 24, 2005, 02:27:31 pm
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Here is a sample system I put together for you. This would be a badass gaming machine.
The highlights of this system are:
AMD Athlon 64 3500 processor
2 Gigs Dual Channel DDR
In my opinion the best video card on the market, Nvidia 6800 ultra pci-e vid card
Raid 0 raptor harddrives for super fast load times.
16X dual layer DVD burner.
Estimated Cost: $2,087.00
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motherboard ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 $184.00 local
cpu AMD Athlon 64 3500 Boxed Socket 939 $279.00 local
ram1 1 GB DDR PC3200 duel chan $142.00 local
ram2 1 GB DDR PC3200 duel chan $142.00 local
case Antec Super Lanboy Case w/o psu $85.00 online
psu Enermax EG701P-VE 600 Watt Noisetaker $149.00 local
raid1 Westner Digital Raptor 740GD 74 GB SATA raid0 $186.00 local
raid2 Westner Digital Raptor 740GD 74 GB SATA raid0 $186.00 local
floppy Sony 1.44 MB Black $7.00 local
video nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra Video Card pci-e $500.00 online
optical Liteon 1673BK 16X DVD RW Black $62.00 local
software Microsoft Windows XP Professional w/SP2 $137.00 local
software Norton Antivirus 2005 OEM CD Only $28.00 local
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Here are some pics of the case:
http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=11-129-145-04.JPG/11-129-145-07.JPG/11-129-145-06.JPG/11-129-145-05.JPG/11-129-145-02.JPG/11-129-145-01.JPG/11-129-145-03.JPG/11-129-145-08.JPG&CurImage=11-129-145-07.JPG
Even comes with a cool carrying strap. It's awesome.
If I made any mistakes or left anything out please feel free to correct me.
If anyone else wants to offer their opinion on a system that he might want please add to this thread.
Hope this helps Broin!
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I say screw the floppy and make it a simple $2080. I haven't had one for over a year and don't miss it at all.
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Ok few suggestions...
1. Do you really need 2 74 drives. If you get 2 36 you save yourself 200 bucks. Broin is only using this for mxo... its a waist in my opinion.
2. You could save almsot anotehr 200 bucks if you get only 2 512 ramchips instead of 2 1gig. Again dc ddr 1 gig is MORE than enough.
3. 600 watt psu... again you can save anout 75ish if you get a more reasonable psu around 400 ~ 500.
4. If you wanted to cut down the cost another few bucks get a standard case if blinkey lights don't thrill you...
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He said he has $10,000 to throw at it...... I don't think the setup there will put a dent in his pocket.
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rofl
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10 grand to put down. And its not running duel processors and SLi why?
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http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_7500_sli.aspx?SysCode=PC-AURORA-7500&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT
Hmm
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The exact same computer I designed him through alienware would cost him $3,000
lol
alienware sheesh.
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Alienware in the computer market is the equivalent to Nike in the footwear market......
It's way above price of what it actually cost to make it and it's sooooo commercialized.
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dual processors is bleh.. not really a big deal check out the benchmarks and all that stuff.
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buts its just cool
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RAM is King.. Put as much RAM in is as you can I have 4Gigs and I never lag. Trust me a great video card an little RAM will still cause rubberbanding. I do this for a living, more on that see my bio. :) I have been in the computer business since '96. RAM RAM RAM.. Its cheap currently and you will never get a bigger bang for your buck.
Also go with an Intel Chipset Motherboard. Whatever is the most current. Intel chipsets are far superior then any other chipset on the market currently. ASUS makes a nice board and so do Intel themselves.
Also I would go with the Radeon x850 again the one with the most RAM the 256.
An Intel chip. If you have the money go intel far superior speed if you are going with a Xeon. (I dont care what the independant benchmarks say. You have to check the entire system to find the bottlenexk not just the CPU. And putting an AMD CPU in an Intel chipset motherboard bottlenecks it. The same is true vice versa, a motherboard that has a chipset that works faster with AMD will benchmark faster with an AMD chip. But the fastest motherboard / CPU combo on the market today when you look at the actual technical white papers is Intel Chipset Motherboard with Intel Xeon CPU.
If this if for the Matrix only, you will have no advantage with Dual CPU's it will not take advantage of the second chip.
Let me know if you want reviews, etc to back any of this up and I will be glad to point you in the right direction.
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys... Truley I appreciate it. For those who don't know I was in game and mentioned on TS that I would be looking to get a new system in about a month or so and quite a few people stepped forward to give me advise on what to do and get. Once again thanks.
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I have been slowly saving up for parts to build a new system, but with my recent lay off I gotta kinda put it on hold while I search for another form of income.
169.00 MoBoard http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=13-121-226&DEPA=0
429.00 Video Card http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-215&depa=1
229.99 Memory http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-136&depa=1
160.00 Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=22-148-065&DEPA=1
8.49 Case Fan http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-456&depa=0
6.49 Power Fan http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-126&depa=0
184.00 Processor http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-200&depa=1
105.99 DVD Drive http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-131-329&depa=1
39.99 CASE http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-145-062&depa=1
92.95 WindowsXP http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=37-102-151&DEPA=6
1425.90 TOTAL
(I threw windows on the list because I don't have a bootlegged copy or anything, would need to get an OS from scratch....)
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why would u want an nvidia graphics card, even with the 4gig ram, its like putting a jet engine on a tricycle, especially for mxo, stick to radeon, their always one step ahead.
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Amen. RADEON all the way.
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*rolls his eyes* A step ahead. heh.
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Does anyone know who is making the best small 3 piece speaker systems currently?
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ok, some input from you all would be appreciated. my computer is fairly new, actually only a few months old, bought from newegg.com and put together just last november (for only $700, i got off GOOD). i'm going to give you guys the basic specs and let me know what you think i should invest in, if anything:
Intel Pentium 4, 3.0GHz
512MB RAM
Radeon 9600
80G Hard Drive
As far as that goes, MxO is the only thing my computer has issues with, and I know that part of the lag issues have to do with the school's internet. Is there anything I should invest in that would really help, or should I just use the money to buy a new monitor instead? :)
(ask tbone how bad my monitor is, he literally walked in my room, pointed, and laughed. it's probably older than half the people in this faction, almost as old as me. lol. but it works fine. it won't die!! not even when i fall down the stairs with it!!)
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RAM. It's all RAM. You will see a huge increase going from 512 - 1Gig. another at 2Gig. Anymore that that is Gravy. I currently have a similiar set up to yours, only using an Radeon 800 and 4Gig of Ram. I am on cable modem and I never lag or rubberband. You will see a big difference because your machine will not have to go to Swap on the harddrive, and will not have to increase CPU utilization. So in theory it will look like this CPU - RAM - HARD DRIVE. No comparing in a transfer rate from RAM - CPU vs HARD DRIVE - RAM - CPU. (RAM is cheap. RAM is king)
Also if you have any money to throw around the 850 Radeon has great video lag reduction with some great onboard GPU Clock Speed 520 MHz RAMDAC Speed 400 MHz . 256RAM on the card if you are buying don't bother with the 128Meg you wont see a big difference.
Even a used Radeon 9800 will out preform the 9600. I know this because I recently went from a 9600 - 9800 - 800.
With my 800 now I operate at the highest settings highest resolution and all options turned on. Good investment, if you have the cash.
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why would you want an nvidia graphics card, even with the 4gig ram, its like putting a jet engine on a tricycle, especially for mxo, stick to radeon, their always one step ahead.
OMG, a jet engine on a tricycle, I love the analogy. If there was a :rofl smiley it'd be here in a second. Anyway, I went Nvidia for a long time and swore by them, but in the long run I've had more troubles with them than my recent adventures into ATI. Yeah the drivers for ATI tend to be on the lower end or cause problems, but their developers are usually on top of it and release a fix for it quickly.
And just wanted to add, damn Archon, nicely done sig. I like it a lot.
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i need to get myself a new case to fit some more ram, that and when i get back and get back into the groove of having a job and making money instead of spending it, im going to buy myself a gig of ram, i think my specs are this, but i havn't seen my comp in a while, so shes going to be stubborn for the first we weeks
intel pentium 4, 3.2GHz
i think im at 512 or maybe 768? i think thats right ram,
radeon 9800 pro, going to get x800 platinum when i get back, it'll be bigger than my mother board...muahhah!!
i think have 150gigs, but i could be wrong.
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My system is screwed. I'm about to order this from www.dabs.com/uk
Any suggestions on the spec:
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI Socket 939 nForce 4 Ultra PCI-E ATX (£106.37)
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Socket 939 512KB Inc Fan (£120.34)
Memory: Crucial Technology 1GB 240Pin DIMM DDR2 PC2-4300 (£150.49)
Graphics: Sapphire Technology Radeon X850XT Platinum 256MB PCI-E DVI-I VIVO (£294.95)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 NCQ 80GB SATA150 7200rpm 8MB(£31.98)
CASE: Antec Sonata UK Silent 380W PSU ATX (£64.67)
MONITOR: DabsValue 19" TFT LCD 1280x1024 (£174.46)
vat: £173.17
total: £1,162.92
I'll be using other bits of my current PC.
Whaddayathink?
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Damn fine rig, there, Ket. Actually, that is pretty damn on the line. I can't honestly tell you what to kick up a notch. Very well thought out.
Also, I would like to ask if anyone knows of a good mobo that will take up to 4 GB of RAM, and handle an Athlon 2000+ and up. Also, if someone could point me to a site that sells water-cooling systems, I would be highly appreciative. Payday is coming soon, and I need the f00kin' goodies for the upcoming onslaught of PVP goodness.
Thanks in advance
"Vires of Vehemens Angelus"
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Crucial SUCKS BIG YETI ASS! Get GEiL if you can, www.overclockers.co.uk has some good deals usually. And you'll probably want more HD space, I recommend 120GB.
My system:
P4 2.67 GHZ Pentium Processor
Can't actually remember exact specs on the RAM, something along the lines of 1gb (x2 512) GEiL DDR440 PC3200
ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256mb
Maxtor 80gb HD @ 7200 RPM I think
Hitachi Deskstar 120gb HD @ 7200RPM
NEC 17" Flattron CRT screen with some near Antec lights on the side :P
This runs all the games I have without and hesitation on nearly full settings, apart from some places in WoW (which I have on full graphics). MxO runs smooth as a wet dream with occaisonal rubber banding with the server lag spikes.
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My system is screwed. I'm about to order this from www.dabs.com/uk
Any suggestions on the spec:
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI Socket 939 nForce 4 Ultra PCI-E ATX (£106.37)
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Socket 939 512KB Inc Fan (£120.34)
Memory: Crucial Technology 1GB 240Pin DIMM DDR2 PC2-4300 (£150.49)
Graphics: Sapphire Technology Radeon X850XT Platinum 256MB PCI-E DVI-I VIVO (£294.95)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 NCQ 80GB SATA150 7200rpm 8MB(£31.98)
CASE: Antec Sonata UK Silent 380W PSU ATX (£64.67)
MONITOR: DabsValue 19" TFT LCD 1280x1024 (£174.46)
vat: £173.17
total: £1,162.92
I'll be using other bits of my current PC.
Whaddayathink?
Looks like a nice setup. Again as my other posts I would drop 2Gigs of RAM in it for the price you wont regret it.
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Crucial SUCKS BIG YETI ASS! Get GEiL if you can, www.overclockers.co.uk has some good deals usually. And you'll probably want more HD space, I recommend 120GB.
My system:
P4 2.67 GHZ Pentium Processor
Can't actually remember exact specs on the RAM, something along the lines of 1gb (x2 512) GEiL DDR440 PC3200
ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256mb
Maxtor 80gb HD @ 7200 RPM I think
Hitachi Deskstar 120gb HD @ 7200RPM
NEC 17" Flattron CRT screen with some near Antec lights on the side :P
This runs all the games I have without and hesitation on nearly full settings, apart from some places in WoW (which I have on full graphics). MxO runs smooth as a wet dream with occaisonal rubber banding with the server lag spikes.
Anything from ASUS or INTEL as far as motherboards go. If you are going with an Intel chip like you say, you cant beat an actual Intel board. After all they are made specifically with their chips in mind. This link should help you decide http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/matrix.pdf
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There's a chance that I may be forced into upgrading my system before too long, depending if my motherboard decides to crap out on me in the next month or so. Either something is screwed up with the onboard SATA controller or it's one/both of my hard drives that's causing spontaneous reboots.
As it stands currently, this is what I'm running:
Case: Koolance PC-901BW Liquid cooling case (they discontinued my model :()
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-7NNXP Nforce2
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2500+ (running at 2.2GHz)
Video card: Asus Radeon 9800 PRO 256MB
RAM: 1GB GeIL dual channel PC-3500 DDR
Sound: SB Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
HDD: 300GB Maxtor SATA 16MB cache (currently non-operational), 2-120GB Maxtor SATA, 80GB Maxtor, 15GB Maxtor...heh, I like maxtor drives
Monitor: 19" Black Hitachi flat CRT .20mm dot pitch
I'm looking to get, in the event the above DOES happen (prices from newegg):
GIGABYTE "GA-K8NXP-SLI" NVIDIA nForce4 SLI Chipset $182.00
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-128-269&depa=1
AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512K, L2 Cache, Socket 939 Windows Compatible 64-bit Processor $267.00
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-514&depa=1
ASUS ATI Radeon X700 PRO Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 128-Bit, DVI/VIVO, PCI-Express, Model "EAX700PRO/TVD/256"
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-121-523&depa=1
Total: $694.00 (Not too bad in the long run when you think about it.)
Those would be the necessary components I'd need. I'd like to get another gig of RAM to add in to make the game run even nicer, but I have a very limited source of fundage right now heh.