The Furious Angels
FA Discussion => Off Topic => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 13, 2005, 04:18:18 pm
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Finally...
After 24 hours and 38 minutes of deliberation.
Jackson verdict delivered this moment. He has been proven guilty of 0 out of 10 charges.
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What bullshit. If that was a bum in raggedy clothing off the street he would have been found guilty and the world would hate him. Fuck Michael Jackson and the fucked up justice system. and if you want to argue that point with me, first start off your argument by say "The things he admits to doing with children is absolutely normal and acceptable for a 4o-50 year old man to do with young teens-including sleeping in the same bed and holding/creasing their hand"
Why do people support this man? It's the same people who would condemn a man for killing someone who broke into their own home. I'm glad he still has a fair judging coming when he dies.
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THANK GOD!! I really dont think he did it. I watched this whole trial and the prosecution was full of holes. I wasnt buying it and neither was the jury.
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*slam head on desk*
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Fuse... Everyone know Jackson is a freak... but that doesn't mean he molests children... The man has had a fucked up life... He's been in the entertainment bussiness since a child and was beaten daily by his father... He never had a childhood... This seems to me to be the reason for why he acts the way he does... He is living his life as a child... because he never had a childhood. This also isn't a stupid man... He's a brilliant bussiness man... I honestly don't think he was stupid enough to do these things in his own home... when he has the resources to fly to asia and buy all the little boys he wants and molest them... On another note... being a major in Criminal Justice... all the evidence here has been purly circumstantial... and yes I know there have been exceptions... but it leaves a lot of reasonable doubt... And the way the system works... is if there is ANY doubt whatso ever... the jury is required to aquit the defendant...
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I agree that based on the case, it was obvious he would be found innocent due to reasonable doubt. But the things you listed about having a rough childhood are actually a common occurrence, and many times the reasoning to creating a child abuser/molester.
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Yea... but it doesn't mean that everyone who is abused will abuse in turn
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if it wasn't michael jackson we wouldn'e have known about it
if it wasn't a celebrity no one would have cared
fact is, he was proven guily of being a pedafile, just not in this case
of course, it's curious enough that he was clean-slated on EVERY count, which to me sounds rediculous, because i don't believe that THAT many counts could just be made up ... i think they figured that he was not guilty of most of them so meh why pick and choose which he is and which he isn't ....
i was really hoping he and martha stewart could do some home decorating together, tho .... :p
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This is fucking bukkshit......she, oh i mean he, is guilty of all that shit......
If i was part of the jury, his ass would of been in jail for a long time....
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this trial was destined to happen cuz they prepared our minds or conditioned our opinions from the moment he appeared white, and people accused him of bleaching his skin while everyone else knew it was cuz he got burnt and had a skin condition...nobody had any problems with him even then...only after he was accused of something in a manner that he was depcited as guilty before proven innocenct, did people start making mean jokes about his skin, nose, etc.... i used to hear nasty jokes about him and that lil kid from home alone, and this is without anyone knowing any facts at all, we all made fun of him, even i have, and i dont know why, because i had no reason to at the time other than what the news was telling me happened as if it were a fact.
even the kid back then came out and said he did it for money on tv live from australia.
the most obvious reasons for this case being full of bs was he was getting charged with stuff that has already been reported in tabloid magazines word for word...such as the jesus juice thing, the guy who wrote it also slammed the matrix trilogy and is even on the commentaries too for the bluepills who don't get it, he also slammed passion of the christ for being anti-semitic, but im not gettin into it...the writer himself is controversial....and the japanese kid that they accused him of giving "jesus juice" to was the son of his plastic surgeon while over there for another surgeory on his face, he never made any claims, and has denied what the magazine has said..cuz the magazine has had no source other than being in attendance at a press conference in japan one time while he was with the jap kid, only one time, they showed that footage of him there with the kid and his dad the surgeon and others, and published a story as fact to slander him...the mother of this new case then borrows her stories from other various stories like this.
jay leno has had to call cops on the family, etc...
Let's face it, most of us don't like him because of how he looks, and that's the first and main reason, everything else such as accusations just adds to the hate that we as a society have for him. I have a good friend who takes he purposely turned his skin white to piss off white ppls and my friend said it worked on his parents when they first saw it...they thinked he staged the whole getting burnt and skin condition thing as part of a larger plan of his or as a message...they also believe his theme was always "new world order", like with his dancers always being depicted as some guards out of a 'Revolution X' type game...
Every single juror, said they didn't like the mother, in the way she talked, in the way she looked at them, in the way she stated her words, and in the manners she displayed.
Media = Loses
Court System = Wins
Logic always wins over assumptions based on appearance.
Now if they could only report to the US/UK admitting that within 8 months of the memo that said they didn't plan well enough for war, that they sufficiently perpared, thus admitting to the memo that they denied as "fabricated evidence" two weeks ago...
So first it's fake intel? Now it's intel, that's only just 8 months too early....
Seriously they just admitted to the memo about them planning to lie about the war to justify it, and that they didn't care what they were going to do after, and that both us and the UK would have to share the heavy burden...Come on now, this should be the real story of the week...
Seriously, blair and bush both denied the memo as fabricated..then this revealed more insight of what the memo said: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050612/wl_nm/iraq_britain_usa_dc_1
so what did they do later in the day?? they damn well admitted it existed, or they might of well have said, "stfu and leave us alone" with this one: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050612/wl_nm/iraq_britain_usa_dc_3
"More importantly, the memo in question was written eight months before the war began -- there was significant postwar planning in the time that elapsed,"
They denied this memo existed last week, when it was discovered that they planned to lie to justify the war thru this very same memo, now they admit that it exists!! Good lord man, they should assign me to their PR team cuz these guys are getting bad at spinnin stuff around.
and this is why you keep real world matters off these boards...well stuff like this that is... unless it's like a movie or game discussion or something non-news related..but yah, back to work i goooooo
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Boombye said it best! Good job man.
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/bow to boom
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here's my stance on this: I dont like the guy. he might have done it, he might not have. I do know I have to give props to the jury for their decision they made in the end, I read how the testimony went, the evidence presented, the accusers claims, and claims of his family, as well as which of those claims held water, which didnt, which were proved wrong and or lies, etc. I'll admit I would have liked to have seen him convicted. but Im glad things went how they did, I confidently feel the decision was justly based on the facts and evidence presented, and was fair and unbiased.
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damn.................
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i leave for 5 minutes and boombye's post actually grew .... like roots and leaves and everything ....
/whoa
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haha... wow
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He's still guity in my book......
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I don't think fame or cash has antything to do with this. He' skint now. And everyone looked at him as if he was guilty.
I have faith in the justice system - sure it might not get it right every time, but as soon as we start questioning it (without offering another solution), then there is no point to it anymore.
If my child was abused, that man would be going to Jail. I would never accept an out of court settlement, just so I could live well, and that the man could walk free and abuse again. No. Jordy Chandler's parents should have gone all the way. The fact they didn't suggests, at least to me, that they were after the money. Sorry, my childs well-being, and the fact justice would be done would be my issue (hey probably win the same money anyway).
Going on from this.... the evidence wasn't there.
Jacko had a bad interview with Martin Bashir, the UK journalist. Jacko may still sue Granada TV because they promised to let him vet the footage before being shown - never happened. During this interview, he was talking about sleeping in the same bed. He was holding hands with Jordy. He talked about sharing love.
Only then did the LA police department actually decide to investigate the situation.
No physical abuse was found. No reports to police at time.
Inconsistant stories from the accusers.
Kidnapped, and couldn't leave - except on a few occasions where she could leave the Neverland and come back freely. Uh-huh. Jordy told others that "nothing inappropriate ever happened" before the trial. OK which is truth?
The fact is I don't know, I put faith into a system that barely hold together. Justice. And I like to think that it was correct here. I see no way that those jurors could have been corrupted. They would have been just like the rest of us. Hopefully. :)
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Have you seen this, have your heard about this... the jurors said they were freaked out by the mother because she "looked" at them... where as all the other testamonies they were ignored... .. haha.. seriously... um... lets say that the abuse is true... wouldn't you expect the mother to look at the jurors and plead her testamony to them... DUH... my thoughts are this.. there should be professional jurors... unfortunatly that will never happen... but going on what Keta said... if I had kids.. and they were really abused... it would take several armed security guards to keep me away from the abuser... and Jacko is BROkE... according to statements he is 100 mil in debt... his only source of income is the Beatles songs... and apparently.. according to his interview wiht dateline or someone spends around 32 mil a year... that is a lot of freaking money to be in debt... if only he would annouce it then perhaps people would stop going after him for money??? perhaps...... sorry.. I am rambling after 3 hours of sleep...
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so ....
ummmm .....
how bout dem bears .... heard they traded off urlacher ..... dorks ^_^
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WHAT?! Fuck the Bears! Fuck the whole NFL system! Damn the man! What's this world comming to?! What are those coaches thinking?! Can't they see the obviousness of the truth? Can they see what the media has been saying for years? Can they see that Brian had the BEST NAME IN THE WORLD!
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I like Michael Jackson as a performer and an artist. At one time, I would have wanted to meet him. Dude's got some serious issues and may be a briliant businessman as well as a brilliant artist but he doesn't have the common sense in his personal life to stay away from even the appearance of wrong doing. He's got to know that he's one of the most watch individuals in the world. STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THE LITTLE BOYS, DUMB ASS! Well, its as simple as that for most of us, but I think he is living most of his adult life as a child in many areas of his life.
Do I think he did it? I think he's done some inappropriate things and his pattern of behavior with little boys should tell people that something is amiss, but it all comes down to proving these things BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT.
I think he needs at least an ass whoopin' just for putting himself in that position. He needs to get his shit together, leave the damned kids alone and get his head back into his career. It might not ever be the same career as it was previously, but it'll damn sure keep him out of jail.
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a brilliant businessman? I suppose if getting away with being $400 mil or whatever in debt is being a brilliant businessman...
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He still makes more ina year than I will in a lifetime.
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Have you seen this, have your heard about this... the jurors said they were freaked out by the mother because she "looked" at them... where as all the other testamonies they were ignored... .. haha.. seriously... um... lets say that the abuse is true... wouldn't you expect the mother to look at the jurors and plead her testamony to them... DUH... my thoughts are this.. there should be professional jurors... unfortunatly that will never happen... but going on what Keta said... if I had kids.. and they were really abused... it would take several armed security guards to keep me away from the abuser... and Jacko is BROkE... according to statements he is 100 mil in debt... his only source of income is the Beatles songs... and apparently.. according to his interview wiht dateline or someone spends around 32 mil a year... that is a lot of freaking money to be in debt... if only he would annouce it then perhaps people would stop going after him for money??? perhaps...... sorry.. I am rambling after 3 hours of sleep...
no she pointed and yelled at them with her fingers...
the prosecutors even played a nice game of jury picking, they got an honest one.
no he makes more money from the beatles albums on top of everything he is already worth, not just the beatles but 50% of sony music catalog... im sure he doesn't mind being broke cuz he's got fortress on the case now.
he owes around 267 mil or something, pays back around 30mil a year...but i dont know how he's gonna combat all that interest every year lol.
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No doubt the guy needs some psychiatric care. My theory is that he is trying to live a childhood he never had after being tossed into the music business by an abusive father. He surrounds himself with children because in Jackson's mind, he's the same age as these kids.
But moreso, the parents of these kids need to be looked at. I don't care how famous someone is, a good parent doesn't let their children sleep in another adult's bed.
Just because the guy is a freak show doesn't mean he molests children. Child molestation is probably the most serious charge you can bring against someone in this country and it has to be determined beyond a shadow of a doubt. You better have some pretty rock hard evidence before you charge someone with that. The fact is, the evidence just wasn't there. He didn't get off because he's a celebrity. He got off because the prosecution couldn't prove with the evidence provided that he molested anyone.
I don't know if justice was served or not. I work with a bunch of people who think he's guilty, but ask them why they think that and they can't give you a straight answer. It's all speculation and heresay.
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"Michael Jackson has many faces, none of which look guilty to me. You have to look at the EYES, and not the noses. he wrote "thriller"...."thriller"" ---- Dave Chappelle