The Furious Angels
Staff and News => News and Announcements => Topic started by: Tbone on September 13, 2010, 10:56:03 pm
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Here it is! Our recruitment challenge, now made available for Beta testing! Please keep everything you see and do within this thread. Please please give us feedback! If you don't know something, I want you to try and figure it out.
FA Challenge Beta Test - PART 1 (http://liquiware.net/yotogi/swtor/challenge/MainChallenge.html)
FA Challenge Beta Test - PART 2 (http://jwnettesheim.startlogic.com/FASWTORChallenge/Phase4-beta-10-no%20buttons.html)
PART 1 - "The Ship" - IN TESTING
Features missing
-Need to create loading screen
-New GFX for the cockpit frame need to be implemented
-Add white flash before hyperspace
-timer on clicking on the galaxy viewer has temporarily been disabled for testing purposes (during LIVE, you can only click on certain minutes of the hour)
-Still needs glowing effect, getting teleported (going white), and a voice.
Bugs
-Lead in to PART 2 is not working.
PART 2 - "The Holoroom" - IN TESTING
All features implemented!
Bugs
-Lead in from PART 1 not working.
-Videos sometimes pause to buffer. Need to load videos beforehand to avoid buffering.
-Application login isn't working when posted online.
FIXED! Movies loading mid-way through or not completing.
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Nice. I got to the white screen and heard the audio. Good stuff. Who did the voice at the end? The quality was excellent.
-OH and by the way... was I supposed to have to click on all the buttons for a while for the first audio clip to play? like some kind of puzzle? or was that loading time? :P
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Yes, the first puzzle is getting all the buttons to light up.
Our very own Lits did the audio!
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Lighting all those things up is hard as shit. Good work on that!
So far, I have one suggestion. The first time I got the access code wrong, I didn't realize right away that there was a button that lit up on the bottom right that allowed you to go back to the access code part. Can we make that button blink (sans sound) instead of just lighting up so it's more visible? I would have missed it if I weren't paying attention.
And why can't I remember the code?!?! I've been away too long already...
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I agree with what Ana said. I'm having trouble with the code, too. Never been very good with these things... but I know what to use, I just don't know how to use it.
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Lighting all those things up is hard as shit. Good work on that!
So far, I have one suggestion. The first time I got the access code wrong, I didn't realize right away that there was a button that lit up on the bottom right that allowed you to go back to the access code part. Can we make that button blink (sans sound) instead of just lighting up so it's more visible? I would have missed it if I weren't paying attention.
And why can't I remember the code?!?! I've been away too long already...
I'm not seeing any button that lights up on the bottom right...
EDIT: Nevermind. I see you need to get it wrong first.
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Lighting all those things up is hard as shit. Good work on that!
It can be done in six clicks.
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whats the hint for figuring out the code, Im not hearing any audio recordings
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I love Yotogi....
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Try entering in a random answer, Saint, and then it will give you the repeat transmission of the clue that will eventually be given out to everyone as one of the first steps. It's just a bit of text.
Is there any way to disable Tabbing on this website? It made it very, very easy to find the star on the rotating galaxy (WE HAVE A ROTATING GALAXYYYYYYY!!!) and it definitely takes away from searching for the star. However, maybe we could make the star blink every three minutes or whatever to help people who are searching for it because it has a very, very small clickable area and would otherwise be almost impossible to find.
I love how the galaxy rotates. Maybe it was just because I was on a laptop and didn't have a mouse, but even after I knew where the star was, because it was moving and because the clickable area was so small, I found it very, very hard to actually be able to click it.
If I'm the only one experiencing that problem, don't worry about it. Feedback?
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Yotogi is working on expanding the area and making the sound increase as you get closer like he had originally done now that it moves around.
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If you hit replay then the point the audio overlaps.
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If you hit replay then the point the audio overlaps.
That sentence makes no sense.
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1. Listen to the news audio.
2. Hit "Replay"
3. Immediately hit the point on the universe.
4. Listen to the news audio and the bedtime story overlap
5. Thank Fuse
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I get what he's saying now. Good find.
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Thank you Fuse
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We have a lot of very talented folks in this guild. Why is it that my Fallen Earth guild only had one person, EVER, who helped me with graphics on my website? Who'd you pay off, Tbone? Or was it some... OTHER favor? :P
:) Awesome to be part of this, either way. lol
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Broin dug up blackmail info on all of them.
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Notice there's no smiley face, "lol", or "jk" there...
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Broin dug up blackmail info on all of them.
Speaking of which I am back in town and will be on tonight... Sorry had some unexpected work so to speak the past week and got in this morning.
Going to spend some time with the family today and then be on tonight probably around 8 or so FA time.
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Sorry had some unexpected work so to speak the past week
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/09/18/oman.us.hiker/index.html?hpt=C1
Too bad they covered up your heroics with the old "we released her because of a medical condition" excuse!
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*Updated first post to get ready to add other phases. When other phases are ready, check back here to test them. Also, take a look at the release schedule to get an idea of when to expect them.*
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Newest version of Phase 2 posted. Should have fixed all bugs.
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The width on the new version is too wide. I looked at it in IE and noticed because when the screen fades to white, you can still see the edges of the ship console on either side. I'm not sure if it is the same in Google Chrome, as the older version is still cached.
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I haven't changed the width of the file at all so I'm not sure why you're getting that, but I've gone ahead and enlarged the fade out box, latest version is in the dropbox folder under MainChallenge.html
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Anyone else having the problem in IE where the screen is larger than it should be? Not only is it wider, but it's also taller as well. I can see where the bottom of the center console stops and can see frame space past it. Looks fine on Chrome, though.
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Has to do with resolution I think - cause I had that one chrome. When I get home I'll take some screens
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Ok, the entire challenge is now available for testing! (kinda). Right now Phase 4 is only loading for about half of our testers. It's a separate link from Phase 2&3. Phase 3&4 are still missing sections, and Phase 4 is really buggy, but please report your bugs and feedback. Please look at the FIRST POST for more details.
Hopefully we can go live with this by the 8th!
FA Challenge Beta Test - Phase 2 and 3 (http://liquiware.net/yotogi/swtor/challenge/MainChallenge.html)
FA Challenge Beta Test - Phase 4 (http://jwnettesheim.startlogic.com/FASWTORChallenge/Phase4-beta.html)
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If you are having trouble loading Phase 4, try it in Firefox. I could only get it to work in Firefox.
Please report your bugs (there will be a lot of them), but also, since for many of you this will be your first time seeing Phase 4, I also want your impressions. Thanks.
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I posted a version of PHASE 4 HERE (http://jwnettesheim.startlogic.com/FASWTORChallenge/Phase4-beta.html)
And it appears to be working on Chrome and IE here at work. Let me know if anyone has issues with it, then of course report bugs.
Known issues:
- Iego and Angels videos start in the middle for some unknown reason
- Only Lightsaber option available in current version
- bugs within lightsaber test
- hum sound needs tweaking
- sound volume increases as you make your selections
- It flashes red even when you're right on 2nd and 3rd levels
- continues running past levels' code even when you pass them
- no saber animations
- no red feather at end when selecting "I need more info to make a choice"
- no application at end if you decide to join
amongst other things, my master bug list is at home :(
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I have to admit I'm really impressed with what we have here. It is awesome!
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In addition to Adad's bugs. It froze repeatedly on the lightsaber challenge for me; it didn't advance.
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*New version of Phase 4 available for testing that works in all browsers and has a few fixes.
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Sometimes when going through Phase 4, I have to refresh the entire page because certain things don't load. I don't know if this is because my internet connection is VERY slow or if this is an actual issue.
The first time it happened was when Iego was introduced. Not all of the sequence loaded (it didn't show all the planets, just the terrain of the moon we're on), and then didn't go on to let me ask a question.
The second time it happened, after I refreshed, happened later in the questioning, after the Angels were defined (and AP28431 laughs).
I assume it's because it's loading slow for me because I'm in Italy, but I figured I should maybe say something.
This is awesome, though.
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Sometimes when going through Phase 4, I have to refresh the entire page because certain things don't load. I don't know if this is because my internet connection is VERY slow or if this is an actual issue.
The first time it happened was when Iego was introduced. Not all of the sequence loaded (it didn't show all the planets, just the terrain of the moon we're on), and then didn't go on to let me ask a question.
The second time it happened, after I refreshed, happened later in the questioning, after the Angels were defined (and AP28431 laughs).
I assume it's because it's loading slow for me because I'm in Italy, but I figured I should maybe say something.
This is awesome, though.
Sounds like the bug that causes the movies to start halfway through from the beginning rather than starting at the beginning of the movie is also causing the loading issues. Thanks.
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None of the videos loaded for Ana at all. He thinks it is because of his slow connection.
They load for me, but they all start at the wrong spots.
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Wow. You guys are sick at what you do! I'm testing out phase 4 and its awesome. Will let you know if I find any bugs. That is if I can get passed this riddle. I SUCK at riddles.
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I must say though, all of the phases are very intricate. I am very glad I got into the guild before this all went live. I'd spend hours trying to figure it out.
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"Tell me more about the people i am destined to join?" isn't a question, and shouldn't have a question mark...should it?
As for the test in phase 4, the whole thing froze up after the first riddle, but I figured out I could right click and select 'Forward' and make it go past any part I didn't want to wait for or any riddle I didn't like. Also, I know you guys mentioned the videos starting halfway through, but when I got to the first video it started at the end (the words 'end file' were the first thing I saw) and the audio started at the beginning and continued despite the video ending and AP28431 talking on about whatever.
And finally, when I got to the end there were no options and AP28431 stopped talking, and I was pretty confused. I started clicking my mouse on nothing in general and he spoke again as if I had clicked a response, then the flash site loaded. I'm still confused about that one.
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"Tell me more about the people I am destined to join?" isn't a question, and shouldn't have a question mark...should it?
As for the test in phase 4, the whole thing froze up after the first riddle, but I figured out I could right click and select 'Forward' and make it go past any part I didn't want to wait for or any riddle I didn't like. Also, I know you guys mentioned the videos starting halfway through, but when I got to the first video it started at the end (the words 'end file' were the first thing I saw) and the audio started at the beginning and continued despite the video ending and AP28431 talking on about whatever.
And finally, when I got to the end there were no options and AP28431 stopped talking, and I was pretty confused. I started clicking my mouse on nothing in general and he spoke again as if I had clicked a response, then the flash site loaded. I'm still confused about that one.
Thanks.
I'll make a note about fixing the typo.
I'm hoping when we fix these other bugs, it'll prevent the freezing/things not loading that's going on right now. But you also shouldn't be able to right click and press Forward, so I'll add that to the list.
I also noticed that each time I go through it, the movie starts further and further away from the beginning. Weird bug.
Most likely you got the invisible text bug at the end. Specifically what part was it? Was it right after the HoloVid played?
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Apologies if any of these covered before (especially text bug but that is a key one and I wanted to be sure we were talking about the same thing.
1. loading bar does not show a percentage.
2. AP is stuttery on the first "hello, welcome you feel sick?" bit; my internet connection is 12 mbps
3. my screen is not filled up by the rectangles (i.e. background). Resolution is: 1680 x 1050.
4. the truth behind iego goes much deeper? that the end of it or something? background goes black but hologram remains - only way to proceed was right click and "play2?
5. second riddle (and others actually)- black on black text? cannot read the text if you miss the speech.
6. not sure if this already spotted but hitting "play" once right clicked jumps you through the riddles.
7. not a bug but hooray?
8. Am using IE 9 Beta (figured some other people would be using it too but understand if this is too much to make it totally compatible)
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Apologies if any of these covered before (especially text bug but that is a key one and I wanted to be sure we were talking about the same thing.
1. loading bar does not show a percentage.
Told Adad about it but forgot to add it to the public bug list. Thanks.
2. AP is stuttery on the first "hello, welcome you feel sick?" bit; my internet connection is 12 mbps
First I've heard of that one. We'll look at optimizing for slow connections.
3. my screen is not filled up by the rectangles (I.e. background). Resolution is: 1680 x 1050.
I'm a little confused by this. If you're asking if it should be full screen, the answer is now. The dimensions are confined to avoid it looking ugly or having things not proportioned right. Any additional room will be taken by just a black background for now.
4. the truth behind iego goes much deeper? that the end of it or something? background goes black but hologram remains - only way to proceed was right click and "play2?
Sounds like the invisible text bug, which is looking more and more like it has to do with the movies not playing properly.
5. second riddle (and others actually)- black on black text? cannot read the text if you miss the speech.
Riddle text should be under AP hologram, which is all white space. My best guess is that after the screens faded to black to play the first movie clip, they never faded back to white. Again, bug caused by movie clips not loading correctly, but let me know if you are referring to something else.
6. not sure if this already spotted but hitting "play" once right clicked jumps you through the riddles.
7. not a bug but hooray?
Pointed out, thank you. Yes, hooray. Embrace it. :)
Thanks!
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Phase 4
Ok so all I did was repeatedly click and it skipped a ton of the screens also sometimes it would play two different audio recordings at once.
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Projected completion date, December 22, 2012
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Projected completion date, December 22, 2012
Cool. You've got a week.
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chop chop!!
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If I knew how to fix any of these, that date would be doable.
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you guys are doing a really sterling job I must say. Thank you.
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A few of these issues Yotogi ran into and fixed, so get with him about removing the flash menu and things of that nature. I will also try to help you troubleshoot with the power of google. I'm usually alone on TS just waiting for something exciting to happen.
I think the big issue is the way the movies are loaded. If we fix that, it will solve about 50% of our issues. Another issue is making sure that we have control over when things can be clicked. Yotogi should be able to help with that, as he had to fix that problem on our flash site.
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I'm usually alone on TS just waiting for something exciting to happen.
I see you have already forgotten about the other night I stumbled into Teamspeak... I'll step my game up next time. Don't worry.
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LATEST PHASE 4 (http://jwnettesheim.startlogic.com/FASWTORChallenge/Phase4-beta-2.html)
- Removed ability to continuously click through (buttons only clickable when visible)
- Fixed preloader % text
- Removed Flash Right-Click Menu so you can't use it to skip sections
more updates to come
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Suggestion:
While in the cockpit of the ship, should the view of space outside the windows be stationary?
Can we make it so the image of the stars maybe "floats" up and down very slightly? To give the illusion that the ship is hovering in space.
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Suggestion:
While in the cockpit of the ship, should the view of space outside the windows be stationary?
Can we make it so the image of the stars maybe "floats" up and down very slightly? To give the illusion that the ship is hovering in space.
Shh....Open the mainChallenge.swf file in the Dropbox/main challenge folder.
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The movies are loading properly for me now. Are they loading properly for everyone else (starting at the beginning, syncing with audio)?
My first time through, I did get a bug where the bottom text only loaded 75% of the way and froze, causing me to be unable to continue. I wasn't able to reproduce the error, however.
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Shh....Open the mainChallenge.swf file in the Dropbox/main challenge folder.
You're the best. You should just remake phase 4 from scratch so it's good.
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Shh....Open the mainChallenge.swf file in the Dropbox/main challenge folder.
You're the best. You should just remake phase 4 from scratch so it's good.
Dude hush it... Your part of the challenge Rocks!
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No more circle jerking! Back to work!
LOL...I'm kidding. You're both pretty and your mom and I love you both equally. The only way we could love you more is if you finish the challenge by October 7th!
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Shh....Open the mainChallenge.swf file in the Dropbox/main challenge folder.
Still seeing a stationary star field. :\ Is it supposed to be moving?
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Hey well I think I have another one for phase 4. When I was on the part where you get to ask about the FA I clicked on the top choice and it acted like it was going to move to the next question but froze until I clicked the top choice again.
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The movies are loading properly for me now. Are they loading properly for everyone else (starting at the beginning, syncing with audio)?
During "Definition: Angels", the video flashes for a few frames before disappearing. I refreshed a few times and this was not a consistent bug, but it did happen on more than one occasion.
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Shh....Open the mainChallenge.swf file in the Dropbox/main challenge folder.
Still seeing a stationary star field. :\ Is it supposed to be moving?
Look closer...
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Don't try to move the star field, that's impossible. Only try to realize the truth...there is no star field.
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Don't try to move the star field, that's impossible. Only try to realize the truth...there is no star field.
I don't get it.
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Don't try to move the star field, that's impossible. Only try to realize the truth...there is no star field.
I don't get it.
You see Manic, it's a play on a quote from this old movie from 1999. I doubt you saw it, so sorry for the obscure reference. It was a small independent film, I struggle to recall the name, but I'm the only person I know that saw it any way. It was pretty good though.
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Don't try to move the star field, that's impossible. Only try to realize the truth...there is no star field.
I don't get it.
You see Manic, it's a play on a quote from this old movie from 1999. I doubt you saw it, so sorry for the obscure reference. It was a small independent film, I struggle to recall the name, but I'm the only person I know that saw it any way. It was pretty good though.
That's cool. Let me know if you remember the name. I'd like to check it out.
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I think Keanu Reeves was in it. Must have been Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure
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Remember if you report bugs, please be very specific. If it freezes or hangs, please let us know EXACTLY when (what was on the screen, what was on the screen before, what were you doing). Saying "it froze up a couple of times" really doesn't help us narrow in on the problem. Thanks!
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I think Keanu Reeves was in it. Must have been Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure
or perhaps...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NHorZ8iZ4Y
Ok, back on topic.
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IE Bug for Phase 2 and 3
(http://followtheangel.org/tbone/bug.jpg)
Is anyone else experiencing this? The right side is how it is supposed to look. That's how it looks in Chrome. The left side shows what it looks like in IE. Both the width and height extend past where they should.
As you can see, the ship's body doesn't extend all the way to the edge on the left. Also, below the center console is exposed. While you extended the white fade to cover the extra space, the hyperspace movie doesn't extend to the edges.
Also, are we going to implement the clean up of the body design that Manic did a few weeks ago?
Bugs/Suggestions for Phase 3
-The fade in AFTER the sound effect just isn't working. What if we do the same star effect that we are currently doing, but create a few layers to speed up at the beginning and then slow them down as they go off screen. So when it fades, we're seeing the stars pass by pretty quickly and then they quickly slow down as they go off, until we just have our regular slow moving stars left on screen.
-We should add the SFX of the flashing button back in for this. It's weird to have it at the beginning of Phase 2 but not Phase 3 since it is identical.
-Need SFX for completing numbers and moon puzzle popping up.
-Need SFX for moon puzzle screen going away.
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- Removed Flash Right-Click Menu so you can't use it to skip sections
Not to add another monkey in the wrench, but please keep in mind that this fix is client side only.
It can easily be overridden with simple javascript. The ultimate solution needs to be fixed inside the swf to catch the next previous events and ignore them.
This needs to be done in both yotogi's and adad's flash.
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awesome
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Don't get too worried I think it can be an easy fix with some actionscript. As long as it is performed in the actionscript no javascript should be able to hack it. I will be the one trying to hack it!
http://www.webdesignmo.com/blog/2008/08/20/right-click-menu-in-actionscript-3/
http://www.ilike2flash.com/2009/07/disable-context-menu-in-actionscript-3.html
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*Updated*
Please test and leave SPECIFIC feedback. Thanks! Also, we will be updating consistently throughout the week.
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The reconstruction code disappears and reappears a few seconds later when you click in the field to enter a code.
And after the planet puzzle, Iego and the moons popped up and in less than a second disappeared and the whole screen went black. I have been unable to get any further than that if there is anywhere to go from there.
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The reconstruction code disappears and reappears a few seconds later when you click in the field to enter a code.
And after the planet puzzle, Iego and the moons popped up and in less than a second disappeared and the whole screen went black. I have been unable to get any further than that if there is anywhere to go from there.
Click the second link to continue for now.
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The movies are loading properly for me now. Are they loading properly for everyone else (starting at the beginning, syncing with audio)?
During "Definition: Angels", the video flashes for a few frames before disappearing. I refreshed a few times and this was not a consistent bug, but it did happen on more than one occasion.
Videos did not pop for Iego definitions or for the definitions of the Angels. After I got done with the definitions of the Angels, no text appeared.
After a refresh, the video for Iego loaded this time, but the audio un-synched itself and he stopped talking halfway through the movie. No text popped up to click.
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Actually, I did a hard refresh of Adad's stuff and everything loaded correctly the first time. Let me try clearing out my Cache and see if everything works correctly the first time.
Alright, so I'm going through it for the first time after clearing my cache/cookies/history/everything. These videos have not loaded properly for me on Firefox:
-Iego movie. Only saw the blinking dot for a second, and then white screen.
-Angel movie. Only saw the lightsaber turn on and turn everything white.
-The Holovid itself started 3/4 through, but the audio played from the beginning. AP came back on while Tbone was still talking.
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I must be the only one that thinks these challenges will be to hard for people and they will lose intrest. I hope Im wrong.
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I disagree Saint; I did the challenge this morning and a few of the riddles are actually a little too easy with google at your hands.
The only bit I fear might put people off is the "times" at which the challenge can be undertaken. However, once people know it is FA then they expect it to be rather tricky to get going - so this will weed out the keepers early on I reckon.
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the riddles are easy however the numbe puzzles I have no clue as to how to do them. I havent been involved in the making of this from the begining so its all new to me. It took me half of a day trying to figure out that cypher bit on google. Maybe Im missing some information that would have made it easier.
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the riddles are easy however the numbe puzzles I have no clue as to how to do them. I haven't been involved in the making of this from the begining so its all new to me. It took me half of a day trying to figure out that cypher bit on google. Maybe I'm missing some information that would have made it easier.
Listen to the clues of the puzzle. A.P. stresses certain words. All that you need to solve the puzzle is said in his one sentence.
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(1)IE- I clicked on Tell me where Im at now! and it pulled up the moon background but when he got done talking, it faded out and there wasnt any dialogue at the bottom. glitch?
(2)Also that was the first time I had seen the moon background show up.. before that it was just dark. (update) This time I saw more of the moon clip which started by seeing serveral planets or moons and then zoomed in on the moon serface, however this was the first time I had see this and it was my 4th or 5th time through, previously it was either white or black and only showed the zoomed in view with the flashing red location light.
(3)Now after all this I tried to restart the whole thing and the loading bar is just froze at 100% and wont proceed.
update: I erased my temp internet files and retried.. it loaded up this time.. wierd, second attempt it worked.
(4)..when the AP was talking about angels, the angel in the background that I think was suppose to show up only flashed and then was gone... I could barely tell what it was.. (repeatable)
(5)ok another bug,
after the AP gets the cell call from T, the AP starts the Video or sound file, Im not sure which because I can only hear T talking about choosing, however its being played at the same time as the AP is talking about making a choice.. So I could hardly make out what each was saying until the AP was finished talking then it was just T. However I never saw anything, and Im assuming I should since T said if your watching this....
On second attempt the video attempted to start, the back screen darkened like it was going to play a video, then the Ap came back on and said his good bye, while Tbones video audio was playing in the background. (Repeatable)
(6)Next bug,
When Im choosing my poison, I only see the light saber, ok if thats all there is but the bug comes into play thus: when I run my mouse over it a couple of times it highlights the choice however after a couple of times it just disapears and there is no choice and no way to advance the AP
(7) This must not work with IE very well huh? After stating that I would like to ascend the Ap said one more memory scan, however it just froze and no more text appeared on the screen. I begane to click wildly after a bit and must have clicked on something that I couldnt see and it said you should make your choice soon.. so some sort of bug there.
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I finished the MxO challenge in 3 days when I was 13... I'm 19 now and I'm stuck on the first riddle. I don't know how frank we're being on this thread. Though I know its only members reading this, I wouldn't want to spoil it for anyone... All I'm saying is I've been trying different ways of decrypting the random letters at the bottom of the transmission, and I feel like I'm working way too hard on this.
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Is this happening in both Firefox and IE, the movie loading issue?
And there's no such thing as "too hard", as long as everything makes sense, which I think it does. Eventually the answers will be posted somewhere and we won't be able to do anything about it, so anyone who really wants to get through it will be able to. We need to retain that element of suspense for as long as we can.
So..
-movies are still loading incorrectly, confirmed in Firefox and IE. Often times it starts at the end of the movie (the Angel video only shows the end where the lightsaber is drawn). This also sometimes causes the text not to load.
-after having the movie loading bug, refreshing can cause the loading bar to get stuck at 100%
Is anyone having trouble loading text anywhere else besides right after a movie is supposed to play? With the "moon background" that's shown, do you see all of the moons and see it zoom in to one and then show a terrain with a flashing light? Or are you only seeing the flash of one moon?
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Shit, I forgot to update the link for Part 2. Please please try Part 2 again. The correct link is here:
http://jwnettesheim.startlogic.com/FASWTORChallenge/Phase4-beta-8.html
Hopefully this newest version fixes some of your issues.
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T - on new version you posted beta 8 - I put in the correct answer to first riddle and nothing happens. the text box disappears but that is it.
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T - on new version you posted beta 8 - I put in the correct answer to first riddle and nothing happens. the text box disappears but that is it.
Hmm, ok. I just tried it and it worked fine for me. What browser/OS are you using?
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After answering the AI's riddle and asking him where you are he launches into his definition of Iego and the movie in the background is extremely slow and choppy. I'm not sure if it's supposed to be or not. After it dims in the background I have no more conversation options and I'm left clicking around randomly. More apt to chalk it up to a glitch than assume it's part of the test, since I've never seen the Furious Angels resort to, "Yeah, make them click randomly until they find the hidden link, lolz."
On Chrome in Windows 7, btw. (And still stuck on the access code in phase 1, the cypher is driving me nuts.)
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After simply refreshing the page, and doing it again, the video sped up to proper speed, and I have the dialog options I didn't before. Odd...
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After simply refreshing the page, and doing it again, the video sped up to proper speed, and I have the dialog options I didn't before. Odd...
So it sounds like the first time you just weren't able to load the movie fast enough, but the second time the video was already cached so it played smoothly.
Is anyone still getting an issue where the movie doesn't load at all or starts 3/4 of the way through on the newest version?
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I'm going through it again right now, and things are downloading VERY slowly. I assume that's just an issue on my end, but it took me a while to load. Once the loading was done, and AP started to talk, it kept cutting out like it wasn't streaming the audio fast enough. No text appeared after. Refreshed.
The second (soft) refresh through the audio was fine. The first movie loaded at the correct time, but it acted like I was watching a slow-downloading movie on Youtube; it would start, then stop, and then go VEEERRYYY SLOW. The entire time, AP talked at normal speed, though. Eventually, once the movie was done loading, I couldn't move forward and had to refresh.
Third (soft) refresh through, the audio was fine. The first video loaded at the back end (blinking red dot on the earth-like planet)... but was in slow motion and eventually bugged out like it did the second time. I couldn't click anything.
Fourth (soft) refresh through, I was finally able to get past the Iego description with the video playing at the correct time and loading right away. However, once I got to the description of the Angels, only one frame stayed on the screen. I don't know whether the frame is the first frame in the movie or if it's somewhere in the middle. I think it might be the first frame. Again, no text pops up because the Flash thinks the movie is still playing. Audio loaded fine. It seems like the video isn't downloading properly? It says at the bottom of my Firefox that it's "Done" loading, which means the Flash or my browser thinks it doesn't have anything else to download.
Fifth (soft) refresh through. Iego loaded fine. Got to the Angel description and the wall only showed one frame again (albeit a different one most likely further into the video). Again, at the bottom of my browser, it says the page is "Done" and it isn't transferring anymore data.
Sixth (soft) refresh through. Iego video loaded fine, but the audio stopped at "The truth about Iego goes much deeper" and no text popped up to click.
HARD refresh. Loading bar took about 25 seconds to get to 100%. After that, it says "Done" at the bottom. *fingers crossed*. Nope. Iego video looked like it began to load correctly, but hung on the picture of the moon/planets for a little too long, but then moved at a normal speed and finished about 8 seconds after it should have. AP continued to talk while the video hung, and I didn't see any text pop up after the video/audio was done.
HARD refresh. Loading bar took 45 seconds this time. Bottom said Read jwnettesheim.startlogic.com once the loading bar finished and the video wall came up. Got through Iego successfully. Video for the Angels didn't load this time, and no frames from the video showed up either. It was just a blank wall (however, the wall lightened a good bit). After the audio finished, no text popped up.
2nd refresh (soft refresh). Loading bar did not go to 100% right away like it did for the other soft refreshes, but actually took about 25 seconds to load, which means, I assume, that it downloaded more stuff on top of the stuff I downloaded the first time in the hard refresh I did before this. Iego loaded fine, but, again, it hung on the Angel video. No video was shown, although audio played. The wall, again, lightened up.
3rd refresh (soft). Loading bar went to 100% right away. Again, wall became whiter when describing the Angels, but no video was shown. No text popped up either, so I was unable to continue.
I've been telling myself for a while now that this is my last refresh, yet I keep going through it, blindly hoping that it'll just suddenly start working. I'm going to do one more hard refresh, and then call it quits.
Final hard refresh. This time the loading bar took about 80 seconds to go through. Once it got to 100 percent, it said "Done" at the bottom. During the loading sequence it was "Transferring". For a few seconds while the wall/AP was coming up, it said "Read". Iego movie loaded correctly! Angel movie didn't. No text appeared, audio loaded. Wall turned whiter.
I'm done.
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So it seems apparent that the text doesn't load because the flash thinks the movie is still playing. The audio is a separate mp3, and therefore will play even if the movie isn't playing properly.
I think we definitely just need to find a different way to call the movie files. Right now they are being called externally, rather than incorporated into the flash.
I'm surprised about the long loading times. It always loads very quickly for me, almost as if nothing is happening, and I haven't had any problems recently with playing the movies and progressing through.
What browser were you using, Ana?
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Well, I just tested it briefly and the Iego movie loaded at the wrong place for me. At least the problem appears to be consistent.
Please let us know if you have loading problems anywhere else BESIDES the movies (so if text doesn't load after just a riddle, for instance).
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Firefox on a Mac. Remember, though, I'm pulling information from servers located in the United States FROM Italy, so my download times are going to be slower than yours. Plus, my internet speeds are not as fast as yours are.
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Firefox on a Mac. Remember, though, I'm pulling information from servers located in the United States FROM Italy, so my download times are going to be slower than yours. Plus, my internet speeds are not as fast as yours are.
Makes me wonder how slow the connection can be before things mess up or how slow the computer must be for that matter.
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Firefox on a Mac. Remember, though, I'm pulling information from servers located in the United States FROM Italy, so my download times are going to be slower than yours. Plus, my internet speeds are not as fast as yours are.
Makes me wonder how slow the connection can be before things mess up or how slow the computer must be for that matter.
My download speeds can't be the only issue, because, eventually, I would have been able to get past that video. I spent more than an hour going through the Beta-8, refreshing each time.
My internet is slow, yes, but it isn't that slow. There's no way that movie is over 10 MB, and it shouldn't take more than 2 minutes to load it. I'm able to stream entire episodes of TV shows online without much trouble, so this can't be the only issue.
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I had trouble, as T-Bone noted, streaming the video the first time around, though I was on my gaming computer and my net connection is 10mbps DL speed. I had nothing running in the background, and I don't believe anyone else on my network was doing anything bandwidth heavy.
It's still possible it's on my end, but those issues make me think it might be server side, wherever the Flash is calling the movies from. Having the Iego movie last 10-15 seconds longer than it should my first time around makes me shudder to think what someone on a budget computer and connection might experience... Of course, my understanding of this stuff is elementary at best, maybe one of you guys can tell me more.
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I have been using Internet explorer as that is all I have on this computer. Ill try the new link and see if its any better.
Findings thus far with the AP with new link:
(1) Angel chick only appears for about a second, seems like that should be longer. On my following attempts, she only flashed for like a mili second. Happens everytime
(2) When asked to choose my poison, I chose "My Mind". The text disapeared but nothing happened. No way to advance. I have gone through this twice and same result each time. Mind does not work.
(3) On my first attempt I saw the complete moon sequence. On my second attempt I asked "where am I" after first riddle. On one attempt it flashed the red light sequence. On my next attempt it only went dark, then back to light with no video whatsoever. This is repeatable.
(4) After number puzzle, the Ap asks a question, the reply text is visable however it will not let me click on it.
unable to complete the challenge due to either text not clickable or text not appearing and I tried like 10 times, it doesnt seem to happen at the same place everytime.
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Just got through the first riddle on the first phase, (redemption!), but I'm in class. Yes, this is what I do instead of paying attention to Comparative Government. When I get out of here I'll run through as much as I can on both windows and OSX, in safari, chrome, and firefox on both.
Also: That should have not taken me as long as it did. Just had a flashback to that *Doh!* feeling that became all too common with the old challenge.
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I'm getting the same video quirks that everyone else is. Other than that, everything is working fine.
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Regardless of your internet speed, it shouldn't stutter or skip of freeze like it is doing. We should make sure everything is loading with the loading bar, so if you know you have a slow connection, it might take a minute or two to load.
"My mind" and "blaster" are currently disabled. Clicking on them won't do anything currently. We are still creating that content. Please choose "lightsaber".
I think if we can figure out how to safely call these videos, that will solve 90% of our issues. I'm concerned about when the text freezes or doesn't load and it's not during a movie sequence (for instance, why is the text not clickable after the number pyramid?)
These were all issues we had with the first round of beta testing. I thought most of them had been fixed for the second round, but now either they've all come back or they were never gone to begin with.
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Ok, I just ran through all of Part 2 and everything worked PERFECTLY for me. The movies loaded perfectly, the audio...EVERYTHING.
Also, it took me less than two seconds to load to 100%.
Am I THE ONLY ONE who can go through the whole thing with no issues? If so, what could the reason be?
I'm going to make sure my cache and everything is completely clear and then try again.
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Running it a second time after clearing cache and everything, it still only took me two seconds to load to 100%. the Iego video started about 4 seconds further in than the beginning. The Angels video started about 8 seconds further in than the beginning. Last time it did this, the more I refreshed, the more towards the end it started. Hmm...
Possible solutions:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/20/861833
http://www.askapache.com/flash/preloading-caching-flv-mp3.html
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I dunno, I tried it on more than one computer, pretty much the same result.. on both firefox and IE, no videos.
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OK, I went through the second half of the Challenge on a computer from school. The Iego video loaded halfway through (at the picture of the earth-like moon/planet), but I was able to continue. The description of the Angels movie did not load at all (the wall got a little lighter), BUT it let me continue. I stopped at the number period because I have to leave for class in a minute.
The computer running Windows 7 using the 3.6.8 version of Firefox.
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New version of Part 2 is uploaded:
http://jwnettesheim.startlogic.com/FASWTORChallenge/Phase4-beta-10-no%20buttons.html
Please test this newest version. The "blaster" and "mind" options are now functional, which should complete all of the content except for the application at the very end.
Adad believes he has fixed any issues with the text not fading in or only part way. We still have the same issue with the movies, which Adad plans to tackle tomorrow. They ran perfectly for me, but only part of them loaded for Broin.
We still do not have them spliced together yet, so the links are still separate. Please test and report back, and I'll let you know when I think we've solved the movie issue.
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I have tested the video play on numerous occasions, and there is no consistency on how much, or I guess I should say how little of the videos I get to see.
The very last one literally started and then ended in about 4 seconds.
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*crosses fingers*
I believe we're on schedule to go live with the challenge this week. The challenge is almost completely put together, and almost all the bugs have been squashed (including the infamous video loading).
We hope to have a near-final put-together version ready for the meeting tonight for some thorough testing. Please try to be there!
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I WILL BE THERE!!!
I will also be there Friday morning for the release because I am in town this weekend.
wooooot!!!!
*excited dance*
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well done guys; great news.
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I'll be working on the final iteration of the cockpit tonight.
If I seem unattentive during the meeting, that will be why.