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Title: Dilemma I have
Post by: ReReminiscence on September 29, 2011, 11:26:50 am
So I have been doing a good bit of research among other things trying to narrow down my class I wish to be. Over most of my MMO gaming I have been mainly a high dmg dps type play style be it ranged or melee damage. Think more along the lines of a thief or rogue per-say. My current class I have been looking into has been Shadow as of late due to it seeming to be thife-ish in play style as such. Yet along with all of this I have been looking at Sentinel as well for its high sustainable dps. Along with the fact in all SW games I have duel wielded with jar kai from Kotor and beyond. Also in most role plays I have been a jar kai proficient light saber wielder. So from the history of how I have been in the past makes me look into Sentinel more for all of these reasons. Yet Sentinel seems more like a barbarian in most sense due to the system of marks they use like building fury and such. I have never played a class like this before and all I have known in a thief. SO might any one be willing to help me brake some things down. The last major MMO I played was rift so if example from that could be used to help me understand the class brake down and roles more I'd be thankful.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Tbone on September 29, 2011, 12:50:19 pm
Sentinel - burst DPS with medium armor. You're more front lines than in the shadows. You can do a bit of offtanking, but mainly you'll be focusing in out DPSing them up close and personal.

Shadow - going the DPS route, it's more of a rogue/assassin and uses a double bladed. More squishy but uses stealth when attacking.

Smuggler - not sure which AC it is, but there's a stealth smuggler as well that is sort of a ranged assassin style.

In terms of your style, the Jedi Shadow is probably the closest, though apparently the story is more of that of a diplomat than an assassin. Story-wise, the Smuggler is probably closest to your personality. All this being said, I plan on playing the Sentinel ;)
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Ragnarok on September 29, 2011, 01:21:47 pm
How are shadows squishy?
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: ReReminiscence on September 29, 2011, 01:43:45 pm
Well I would go smuggler but all of the orders that I would like to be in are primarily force users >w<  


Also I think what T means Rag is squishy armor wise if you don't build into tank specs.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Tbone on September 29, 2011, 02:04:51 pm
They wear light armor, I believe, unless Shadow can have medium. If you spec into the assassin skills, you will remain squishy I assume.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Amarantus on September 29, 2011, 02:10:48 pm
I may be incorrect here but just because it sys mostly force users does not mean you wouldn't be accepted into an order. You can always pm the master of an order and ask them about it. Definitely should not let order dictate what you play.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: ReReminiscence on September 29, 2011, 02:13:26 pm
Well Tbone what be them yellow bars under a sentinel's health bar is that basically like a fury system?

^ well I was looking at shadow before I saw the smuggler progression vid and the gunslinger kinda called out to me but also shooting a sith in the face with a scatter rifle just makes me giggle with the joy of a thousand children. Also the cheap kick to the crotch is enjoyable to watch over and over again.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Tbone on September 29, 2011, 02:47:55 pm
It's focus. The sentinel builds and spends focus with abilities. From what I've seen it's more fast-paced than other versions of that system.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: ReReminiscence on September 29, 2011, 03:20:06 pm
So some skills build the focus then others expended it to do more damage?

As for the orders I was looking into they are Libertas, Aequitas , or Emeritus The 1st and 2nd choice being the higher of the three. Aequitas due to me always normally being a grey in my actions and my mind.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Ketamininja on September 30, 2011, 09:45:17 am
Re OP, I feel that describes my style of play as well.
I am looking at smuggler, and haven't deviated much.

Really, it's the force/saber use that's gonna tie you up from choosing a traditional theif/rogue model.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: ReReminiscence on September 30, 2011, 11:05:15 am
Well in some sense the force and such could take away from the traditional models of a thief yet I don't see the force moves that Shadows have taking away from it that much. I'm guessing its primarily cc if anything from the videos of pvp from gamercon I've seen. Plus Scoundrel doesn't seem like the type that I'm used to with the healing specs put into it I mean rift wise smuggler is the closest to what I'm used to yet from what I've seen and read consular is going to be the burst damage of a thief. Gunslinger seems like an archer with cover and scoundrel seem like it might have some identity crisis going on. ( to me at least)
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Deathsboon on September 30, 2011, 01:49:39 pm
I think im going to go cousular just because im usually the one everyone goes to. Also i think it matches my personality of being the judicator in ways like all of my actions could make or break a treaty ect... and i like that cuz ive always been that type of delegate person.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Saint on September 30, 2011, 02:08:54 pm
You gota be able to spell it right first though...."its Consular"...  ;)
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: ReReminiscence on September 30, 2011, 03:15:06 pm
Saint if I didn't spell check my post I think your eyes would bleed XD
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Jesseria on October 05, 2011, 11:33:54 pm
Quote from: "Tbone"
Shadow - going the DPS route, it's more of a rogue/assassin and uses a double bladed. More squishy but uses stealth when attacking.


I wanted to mention that it seems the Skill Trees have a drastic impact on what the classes are able to accomplish. For example, it was recently posted on a developer blog that Shadows will be given the ability to act as a tank through a specialized Skill Tree:

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Jedi Consular Advanced Classes

Jedi Shadow (Roles: Close - Mid Range Damage Dealing, Tanking)

Jedi Sage (Roles: Mid-Long Range Damage Dealing, Healing)

The Shadow Advanced Class now has a skill tree that allows them to fill the role of a tank effectively, using Lightsaber defense and Force powers.


That being said, I would imagine that a non-stealth Sabre, Force power Shadow is also available through the Balance Skill tree. Not sure how true that is, but I appreciate the versatility found throughout every class.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Jesseria on October 05, 2011, 11:40:39 pm
Quote from: "Tbone"
Smuggler - not sure which AC it is, but there's a stealth smuggler as well that is sort of a ranged assassin style.


Also thought I should mention that the Stealth Ranged Smuggler can is actually supposed to be one of the Main healers for the Republic. Check out the Scoundrel Sawbones build.

My wife, Elianna plans to play a Scoundrel Sawbones build. She likes the idea of being a stealth healer.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Tbone on October 06, 2011, 01:37:22 am
Quote from: "Saint"
You gota be able to spell it right first though...."its Consular"...  ;)

Haha, there's nothing more embarrassing than misspelling an easy word while trying to correct someone else, but I suppose you "gota" try! (granted, it isn't a real word!)
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Oomm on October 06, 2011, 09:06:18 am
scoundrel and commando healing is now on par with sages this beta build. sages are the "best" healer since they  have a better resource system, but HPS they should be all even now.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Jesseria on October 06, 2011, 09:22:08 am
Quote from: "Oomm"
scoundrel and commando healing is now on par with sages this beta build. sages are the "best" healer since they  have a better resource system, but HPS they should be all even now.


Fantastic! That's great news for Elianna. She is going to be very happy about this; she was very excited about the concept of a stealth healer. Oomm, do you know anything about the capability of a tank build Shadow? Is it as viable as a tank as the developer blog made it out to be?
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Saint on October 06, 2011, 10:34:08 am
I purposely left the word "gota" in there, I figured someone would say something... it was bait.
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Tbone on October 06, 2011, 12:46:04 pm
Quote from: "Saint"
I purposely left the word "gota" in there, I figured someone would say something... it was bait.

Oh, of course! I only said something to bait you into admitting it was bait!
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Amarantus on October 06, 2011, 02:01:22 pm
There is way to much baiting going on in this thread. I know you two are masters of baiting but I think you have gone to far this time.

(Oh come on. Someone had to do it. )
Title: Re: Dilemma I have
Post by: Jesseria on October 06, 2011, 02:04:59 pm
Quote from: "Amarantus"
There is way to much baiting going on in this thread. I know you two are masters of baiting but I think you have gone to far this time.

(Oh come on. Someone had to do it. )


Clearly this response is baiting someone to say that you yourself is baiting someone to say that you are in fact baiting.

Clever . . . very clever.
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